CarMad

It depends what you are driving and how though doesn't it. Pick any BMW low to high and in default DSC and you can floor the thottle and it will just go round in a perfect circle. Turn it off or have it in M mode and then the fun starts. Many do the former and think they are gods gift but forget there is 400bhp going through two pieces of rubber and that doesn't end well. On the road the No. of times you can really do this is limited, M mode gives you more of a chance to play but still a safety blanket. Personally I've found BMWs feel more secure on and near the limit than the Audis I've had but there are merits of both. Try them, I did this when I tested the S3 and 330i all those years ago and they were night and day different. By chance I test drove through the same greasy roundabout and the Audi was an understeered mess the BMW went round almost as if the road was dry I genuinely shocked. Give both a go.

That F1 them is pants. Anyone see the Horner interview today around Ferrari going against the gentleman agreement on staff, this season is going to be interesting.

Wow six years on, that is a LONG lead time for a sale.

They will start increasing road tax, purchase tax on cars is already going up and maybe car exchange tax maybe. They will find a way, my first post points to the fact that they are already moving away from a measure (CO2) that saw them lose revenue. They won't want to lose £37+Bn in car tax revenue lets be honest.

Yeah they haven't had a good time of it at all have they, far from it. I bet they have there head in their hands considering how well Honda reliability looks ultimate performance another matter.

They have already done it, a default tax rate for cars up to £40k of £140 a year and for cars over and many Hybrids and Luxury cars regardless of emissions its another £310 a year on top for the first 5 years of the life of a car. So a Tesla will be £450 a year from now on. Very very few ultra low emission cars get any really low rate these days.

I resemble that comment.

Agree a standard M-Sport model will suit it down to the ground. Also this is still semi concept so it will still get a few tweeks. So they have made a 6 series an 8 Series and a 5 series GT into a 6 series 6, ok then. Anyway looks the business and I bet inside it will be a bit special, the 7 certainly is.

Booster - Looks like BMW are just about to announce your next car! They have just announced the concept (soon to be final) example at Geneva today.

She just got a new car, we need a new kitchen and numerous other things that in the queue in front of it. Its a luxury that I will get too just not sure when.

My kids are still pretty small but a nice two seater for me a used Cayman would be perfect, if only I can persuade the wife.

Ooh great choice Mac - both fab cars and I can see the attraction of both. If only I didn't have the kids to cart around and I had the spare cash to buy a nice third car...

I won't be subscribing to Sky next year, if that means there is no catch up / highlights program then F1 really is over for me other than what I might see in the news. A shame after watch pretty much every race for over three decades and having worked with some of the F1 teams, ho hum.

They are both pretty epic for different reasons, I can see the attraction for both. If it was the only car I had it would probably be the RS3, if it was a second car the M2 for me. But hey either can destroy a good country road they are the perfect size even M3/4 or RS4 are pretty big these days.