Insurance Jon Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I need something big, practical and a little less thirsty than the rs4 and have narrowed it down to either of the following: 4.2 q7 tdi sline or 4.2 tdi a8 sport your thoughts appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 To be honest I wouldn't have thought a Q7 4.2TDI would be the way forward if you wanted to save on running costs. Being such a big car they do have a tendancy to go through tyres quickly. The A8 4.2TDi has a big flaw in my eyes; the engine is too heavy therefore handling is a little comprimised. Personally, I would consider a 3.0TDi Q7 if you want the best balance between performance and running costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasdrury Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Surely an A8 even with a heavy engine can't handle as badly as a huge off roader with a lighter engine? I would go for the A8... great cars... You haven't had a Q7, though, have you Jon? Another model to add to the list?? They both look very nice - loving the interior of the Q7 Chaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 not had a q7 yet, though i've been a passenger in one when danksy puked in it. I want a nice balance of performance economy and power so i don't think the 3.0 would work for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 you could have them all Jon, you will change them within a couple of months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasdrury Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 [ QUOTE ] not had a q7 yet, though i've been a passenger in one when danksy puked in it. [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 either of these will have to be keepers as they depreciate too much. kept my last a8 nearly two years, loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2 Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 moral is dont let Danksy in your car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alera Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I just had to read that a few times to take it in.... You recommended a q7 3.0 tdi, easily one of the slowest worst handling vehicles I have ever been in. You actually mentioned performance and 3.0 tdi q7 tdi in the same sentence two things that are mutally exclusive ! It must have been tongue in cheek surely ? The handling on any a8 cant be compared to the q7. The q7 is a big wallowing, slow beast of a vehicle even the 4.2. Anyone who actually enjoys driving need not apply I think this argument can be easily sorted with a back to back test drive of an 4.2 a8 tdi and 4.2 q7 I think we can let class talk for itself ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Having driven the Q7 4.2 and RR Sport Supercharged I wouldnt even give the Q7 a second thought, IMO it was not as good to drive and I found the RR more practical. If youre lookign at these types of cars, then unless you must have Audi my List would be: RR Sport V8 TDi or Supercharged Cayenne S (I couldnt stretch to a Turbo) Toureg V10 TDi RR Supercharged Q7 Given the choice you propose - A8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alera Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 My mate has a rr sport supercharged and he loves my w12 Hes going for a 4.2 tdi a8 when his lease is up, he does alot of miles he uses the car for work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 The RR Sport TDV8 sounds awesome - best sounding diesel car I've heard! Probably not that economical though! Given the choices Jon, it has to be the A8 4.2TDi really. Although I fear you might bore of it a little too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 For some daft reason I would go for the A8, but for the life of me I cannot think why.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm erring towards the a8 at the minute, plus it has very tangible gains from tweaking the ecu and after the comments on boot space it seems more practical seeing as i only have the mrs and 1 kid to lug round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDiAvant Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 [ QUOTE ] The A8 4.2TDi has a big flaw in my eyes; the engine is too heavy therefore handling is a little comprimised. [/ QUOTE ] The only time I find the handling compromised on the A8 is when the 90 litre tank is almost empty, and the back end can become a little twitchy... [ QUOTE ] Personally, I would consider a 3.0TDi Q7 if you want the best balance between performance and running costs [/ QUOTE ] I found the economy of the 3.0TDi Q7 to be shocking, and the engine is just not powerful for the size of car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alera Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 They gave me a q7 3.0 as a loaner when my a8 was in for a service. It looks nice and like all audis its well put together and the interior is brilliant. It just drives, handles and performs like a 2.0 diesel transit van so if thats what you are after you are golden..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Get the V8 diesel Q7, Jon. They looks the muts and they're bloody quick for something that weighs as much as a chieftan tank. Plus you should lose less money than on the A8 - not that you ever lose money on cars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Well the reason I suggested the 3.0TDi Q7 was it's a little easier on the tyres, has just had a power upgrade, improved economy and personally, think handles great I'm suprised people are saying it handles badly. I thought for the size it was an amazingly balanced car! The facelifted A8 is a brilliant car but with the newly updated 3.0TDi now out I don't think the performance gain is worth the extra cash. Especially if you are looking to save money. Besides, you can remap the 3.0TDI to 280/290bhp and have a lighter and better handling car on the same measure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insurance Jon Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 mook i'm very aware that both of these depreciate like a smoking spitfire falling from the sky. I just want a comfy, but quick daily driver. Does anyone know which depreciates less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 4.2TDi Q7 will depreciate less than the A8 of the same engine, definately We've just had a white Q7 4.2TDi S-line come in with the 21 Inch RS4 style wheels. It just looks stunning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Well the reason I suggested the 3.0TDi Q7 was it's a little easier on the tyres, has just had a power upgrade, improved economy and personally, think handles great I'm suprised people are saying it handles badly. I thought for the size it was an amazingly balanced car! The facelifted A8 is a brilliant car but with the newly updated 3.0TDi now out I don't think the performance gain is worth the extra cash. Especially if you are looking to save money. Besides, you can remap the 3.0TDI to 280/290bhp and have a lighter and better handling car on the same measure [/ QUOTE ] Fair comments on the A8. The 4.2tdi doesn't really offer enough more over a chipped 3.0tdi and the extra 130/150kgs over the front end is a pain, plus its nearly £200 more on car tax and has worse residuals. Strangely, the A8 3.0tdi didn't get the full torque update that the Q7 got (450Nm and not 500Nm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Q7 will depreciate less, Jon, as long as you don't live in Chelsea We've got a 3.0 TDI at work at the minute and it's just great, despite being the size of a small terraced house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I'd go for the A8 4.2TDi. So subtle, and goes like stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Not as fast as my 535d though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Not as fast as my 535d though. [/ QUOTE ] Different class of car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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