Fergy Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 A friend has a MK V GTi and has the 17" std wheels on. He wants to fit the 18" but is put off by the refurb if they get scratched. He did mention that there was an anthracite option doing the rounds that isnt polished. Anyone know of these and any pics? ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 The black Monza II's are the wheels fitted to European Ed30 GTI's but are available as a dealer fit option at UK dealers for about £1500 iirc ... Black Monza II's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordlad Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Even kerbed the Monza IIs still look good, I know I have slighty kerbed x3 of mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsy Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Even kerbed the Monza IIs still look good, I know I have slighty kerbed x3 of mine [/ QUOTE ] only one more to go to have a full matching set then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordlad Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 boo hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ....Even with white worm surface damage, the Monza 18's look great imo and I've never understood the need to change them on the GTI - They are very much part of the car's whole identity and unique. When mine have got a lot worse, I'll visit Lepsons and have them powder painted a silver/grey to match the colour of the Ed30 alloys. Then I won't have the white worm problem again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 I suspect that if you have these wheels refurbished and asked for an extra coat of lacquer, the worms would not appear. I think the OEM lacquer is quite thin and invisible stone chips break the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ....It's the road salts used on UK roads in winter which corrodes the lacquer. Apparently the UK has particularly virulent road grit! Obviously recycled Gordon Brown !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeGTI Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 It's got to be a UK road issue, cos I've not had a problem with white-worm corrosion on my monzas (I'm in Ireland) and I've never seen any other Irish GTI's with the issue either. Its strange how it doesn't seem to happen here, cos we've surely got the worst roads in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csi_basel Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 RedRobin is probably correct. In the Winter I switch over to winter wheels and so my alloys look pristine (other than the one I scraped, 2 days after getting the car :-(, oh well, its just a wheel I tell myself ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourtess Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 VW's corrosion protection is nowhere near as good as BMW's. The wheels on a 10 year old BMW will look perfect, better than a two year old VW. The same applies to other bits of trim and the paintwork itself. However the VW cars are much cheaper, and in the case of the GTI, much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 [ QUOTE ] VW's corrosion protection is nowhere near as good as BMW's. The wheels on a 10 year old BMW will look perfect, better than a two year old VW. The same applies to other bits of trim and the paintwork itself. However the VW cars are much cheaper, and in the case of the GTI, much better. [/ QUOTE ] The problem hits all similar coated wheels, m3 wheels suffer very badly and vw wheels aren't cheaply made, they are BBS and £370 a corner and up there with the best in the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] VW's corrosion protection is nowhere near as good as BMW's. The wheels on a 10 year old BMW will look perfect, better than a two year old VW. The same applies to other bits of trim and the paintwork itself. However the VW cars are much cheaper, and in the case of the GTI, much better. [/ QUOTE ] The problem hits all similar coated wheels, m3 wheels suffer very badly and vw wheels aren't cheaply made, they are BBS and £370 a corner and up there with the best in the business. [/ QUOTE ] Well said, Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 As Ryan says made by BBS but then i have never seen BBS wheels that are long lasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 [ QUOTE ] VW's corrosion protection is nowhere near as good as BMW's. The wheels on a 10 year old BMW will look perfect, better than a two year old VW. [/ QUOTE ] ....Isn't it in fact down to BBS and not VW (or BMW)? I have heard of the same issues on other lacquer finished BBS alloys on other brands of cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I don't think it is anything to do with salt or water as when I was getting two of mine replaced it took two goes before I got ones without worms. These were brand new wheels, still boxed and never been on a car. The white worms were already starting under the laquer. The other two original wheels, which are now three years old, are still in perfect condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 ....Perhaps it's just down to the lacqueured seal failing then. My white worms appeared during my car's first Winter with the 18's and after I had not had the opportunity to wash my alloys for about 3 weeks. I usually wash my alloys even if I can't wash the rest of my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourtess Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 It's called filiform corrosion. VW's corrosion scientists are not a patch on BMW's. That's a fact. I should know, I have a PhD in the damn subject and have acted as consultant for Mercedes during the development of the new (secret) S class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poobarr Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 [ QUOTE ] It's called filiform corrosion. VW's corrosion scientists are not a patch on BMW's. That's a fact. I should know, I have a PhD in the damn subject and have acted as consultant for Mercedes during the development of the new (secret) S class. [/ QUOTE ] knickers twisted....!!! But fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 [ QUOTE ] It's called filiform corrosion. VW's corrosion scientists are not a patch on BMW's. That's a fact. I should know, I have a PhD in the damn subject and have acted as consultant for Mercedes during the development of the new (secret) S class. [/ QUOTE ] ....I'm sorry but I don't quite fully understand what you're saying. VW's corrosion scientists may not be or are not indeed a patch on BMW's. I understand that filiform corrosion appears as a network of corrosion trails, of a wormlike structure, particularly beneath thin organic coatings, and that salts containing chlorides, which have been left on the surface prior to coating are suspected. So, my logic is that the problem is either down to the alloy wheel manufacturering (by BBS, not VW in this case), or their applied lacquer coating subsequently failing as an effective seal. Am I misunderstanding you, and you mean BBS when you write VW? And why the comparison with BMW regarding this specific problem? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 [ QUOTE ] (edit...) The wheels on a 10 year old BMW will look perfect, better than a two year old VW. [/ QUOTE ] That is a pretty ridiculous statement to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealy Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 [ QUOTE ] VW's corrosion protection is nowhere near as good as BMW's. The wheels on a 10 year old BMW will look perfect, better than a two year old VW. The same applies to other bits of trim and the paintwork itself. However the VW cars are much cheaper, and in the case of the GTI, much better. [/ QUOTE ] None of the above makes any sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianMpower Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Does anyone know if a bmw scientist or technician can recitfy the vw alloy corrosion problem? as i am getting annoyed with the alloys corroding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Everyone's gone mad. This is one of the most nonsensical threads i've ever read... and to top it all off Red Robin's gone all scientific on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Does anyone know if a bmw scientist or technician can recitfy the vw alloy corrosion problem? as i am getting annoyed with the alloys corroding! Only if they order a different finish from a different outsourced company. Remember its down to the companys that make the wheels not the companys that buy them. BBS make the VW wheels god knows why after decades of problems with BBS why VW still go back to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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