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VW Scirocco

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Was at the Geneva motor show and the new VW Scirocco was there. Got to say I was very impressed with the styling...its far better looking than the Golf, lower too, always thought the Golf is too tall. Looks like I've found my next car. Its got the Golf dash and DSG. It definetly was the star of the show alongside the new Jag. New satnav looked very nice and it had Dynaudio speakers in the doors so sound should be good.

Prices haven't been announced but there are going to be very similar to the Golf. Only thing is the 2 litre turbo will be 197bhp according to the people I talked to at the stand rather than the Golfs 230bhp. VW in Switzerland also had 2.9% leasing on the GTI!! Thats a great deal.

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I think this is definitely one to watch. 169144-ok.gifIt will be interesting to see if vw release a 3.2 storm version or go with the uprated 2.0T as in the S3.. bowdown.gif

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....I can't see them offering a 3.2 because of all the EU emissions mumbo jumbo! I hope I'm wrong though.

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From what I've read it will be 7-speed dry on the smaller engines and 6 speed wet on the larger engines.

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Its already a pain to keep track of what gear you're in manaul mode with 6, I don't want 7.

I've trained myself to keep a mental count but its taken a while for this to be natural, and my gf can still distract me with her wittering...GFs don't seem to understand that they're as a privelige, sharing in your driving prowess ;-))

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Before gear indicators became common over the last 2-3 years on motorbikes, it used to be a nightmare to keep track of what gear your in and you can't exactly look down at the gear lever 169144-ok.gif

If fact the only 2 gears you really need to know your in is 1st and top gear, all the rest are chosen based on the rev counter

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I find that being able to hear my engine's revs (as well as see the rev counter) because of having Milltek exhaust soundtrack, is what informs me if I'm in the appropriate gear. Using the revs is something I learnt on my Drivetrain performance driving course.

I agree with Cuprabob and you can quickly glance at the gear indicator if you need.

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Regarding the Scirocco, I really don't see the point of a 7-speed box except perhaps in a 200 mph supercar. It's just too many gears unless you always stay in D-mode. You want plenty revs when driving imo.

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It's actually the other way around, the more powerful the car and more torque you have the less gears you need.

Small engines with narrow torque bands need more gears

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....Ah, yes! Of course you are right, Cuprabob 169144-ok.gif Thanks for educating me. All I know is that I much prefer to use the gears than rely on torque, although I have plenty torque - 400 Nm on my DSG GTI.

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I would imagine that more gears will make for more linear acceleration. I wonder if it will influence fuel economy +/-

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I would imagine it would help fuel economy as it will allow them to make the highes gear a little bit higher ratio.

Robin, that's a nice amount of torque, I have to mae do with just 350Mm.

You'll also be benefitting from weight reduction due to the CF parts

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Got to say I saw the pics of the car in a magazine the other week and I started thinking "hmmm next car perhaps".

Really liked it.

Would have to be the STORM version though, if they produce one.

Anyone have some links to some good pictures?

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A Storm model would be really good however, on the MK1, MK2 and Corrado the Storm didn't appear until end of life of each model.

One major issue i have will all the VAG companies is that they never give you much insight into what the model range is oing to be so you can make a good judgement.

Look at the MK2 TT for example, 2.0TFSI gets launched with FWD, now it's going to be AWD and they have released the TTS and nobody knows if there is going to be a TT-RS.

One thing I have learned is try not to buy a new model too early for this reason and also to make sure they iron out all those little bugs first.

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TTS looked very nice, more aggresive front end than standard and 4 pipes at the back. New Nissan GTR was awesome but 60 grand for a nissan...would go for an M3 instead.

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Vauxhall Astra anyone grin.gif

I do actually quite like it but feel that something just doesn't flow from a design point of view. Can't work out what it is. Would still consider one though.

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Initial reaction is that it's doing nothing for me visually. The engine, spec and drive may persuade me otherwise of course. 169144-ok.gif

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My initial reaction was not great, however, a week gone by and looking at these pics, I'm now a big fan

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....Unlike the GTI/Ed30, I don't think it's a car which white suits.

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Agreed Robin i much prefer the red one i posted in VWchat section of the forum a few days back.

Eos dash rather than the golf wink.gif

I could be tempted its growing on me shocked.gif

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[ QUOTE ]

....Unlike the GTI/Ed30, I don't think it's a car which white suits.

[/ QUOTE ] no one like white mk5 gti's when they came out either till they saw them on the road SMOKE6.GIF

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[ QUOTE ]

no one like white mk5 gti's when they came out either till they saw them on the road SMOKE6.GIF

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....Furry muff / Fair enough, though I never disliked the Candy White GTI before I saw one.

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