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Any news on the MkVI GTI?

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I've heard that the new MKVI GTI will come with a choice of seat fabric....

vw tartan options

.... :lol:

I'll have to dig out a kilt to match!! Can you imagine stepping out of a Mk6 GTI wearing a kilt tartan to match your seats!! :grin:

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Most definitely not - just found a better use for the cloth than wrapping it around large whisky drinking fellas :roflmao::grin:

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I'm sure this artist impression has been seen before but in comparison with the new Scirocco, this particular design treatment looks feasible and credible.

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With that kind of design, I would trade-in for the 6; only when I'm tired of my 5 though, and I can't see that happening for a while :P

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I'm sure this artist impression has been seen before but in comparison with the new Scirocco, this particular design treatment looks feasible and credible.

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For some reason i have a strong feeling and i don't know why but i see for the GTI mk6 a slight different version to the standard mk6 front, i see a tweeked version of this one below.

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Now if i could only have these strong gut feelings about some lottery numbers too.

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I just hope the mk6 has a similar wheel to the 18 " monza. It is a fantastic design that lifts the car.Any other wheel ( imho) just doesnt do the car justice..........

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I just hope the mk6 has a similar wheel to the 18 " monza. It is a fantastic design that lifts the car.Any other wheel ( imho) just doesnt do the car justice..........

....I totally agree, but as long as it doesn't suffer from the white worm!

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....^^^^ That would be really nice, Geoff +++

I agree and looking at it in detail comparing it to your pic after i posted it last night you can see how similar it is to the scirocco and the photoshops of the mk6 that are about. Maybe my strong gutt feeling will be right we will have to wait and see.

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Don't know about the Monza's but Wheels magazine this month suggests the MkVI GTI will have a 200KW (what's that about 240bhp?) version of the 2.0TFSI. Sounds nice if we can get it to the ground!

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....I wonder if it's the same engine as the Ed30 and S3?

I bet they won't include a Quaife diff though! Now that would help get the power to the ground.

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Don't know about the Monza's but Wheels magazine this month suggests the MkVI GTI will have a 200KW (what's that about 240bhp?) version of the 2.0TFSI. Sounds nice if we can get it to the ground!

The mk6 GTI will probably be about 240bhp but you can bet one thing it will be bigger and heavier than the mk5.

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^ err maybe but remember it has the same roof, and glass as the mk5 similar chassis with tweeked suspension so maybe the quoted figures willbe bigger/heavier by a small margin but i think they will be nothing im it.

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I know im in the minority here due to the amount of modifiers about on here but myself i would much rather see VW get hold of a version of the Audi new 2.0T 211PS unit out of the A5 due to its low CO2 figure of ~154g/km. Than have a few more Horse power as standard. Mainly due to the way in the next ten years or so the goverments will screw us over with tax.

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....I was under the impression that there were relatively few modifiers on TSN. But perhaps the engine you are talking about is modifiable anyway. It sounds far too small a power unit for an Audi A5 though - Big heavy car.

"A newly developed Turbo FSI petrol engine available from this week for the Audi A5 provides the sought-after coupe with yet another choice blend of pace and pence-per-mile efficiency. The new 211PS A5 2.0 TFSI can be ordered in either front-wheel-drive or quattro permanent all-wheel-drive forms for £28,760 OTR or £30,285 OTR, and will reach its first UK customers in August.

The new high-tech 2.0-litre unit is derived from the already much praised 1.8 TFSI engine introduced recently in A3, A4 and A5 models, but takes its efficiency a step further still through the use of new Audi valvelift technology. By employing sliding cam units mounted on the intake camshaft that allow for more variation in the degree of valve lift, the engine is able to ‘breathe’ even more effectively, switching to a higher cam profile when strong acceleration is required, or a lower profile that requires less fuel and air compression when throttle usage is more relaxed.

The new 2.0-litre TFSI unit delivers 211PS from 4,300rpm and a very impressive 350Nm torque maximum from just 1,500rpm – more even than the 3.2-litre V6 FSI unit also powering A5 models. It enables the front-wheel-drive A5 2.0 TFSI with six-speed manual transmission to cover the 0-62mph sprint in 6.9 seconds, reach a top speed of 155mph and return up to 42.8mpg according to the combined cycle test. And despite doing full justice in performance terms to the purposeful styling of the A5, it also shows restraint where emissions are concerned, with an output of 154g/km for the front-wheel-drive version."

How do I convert PS to BHP?

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Also you may want to know

350Nm=258.146 lbft

I would have posted this earlier but the server for tyresmoke said it was too busy!

I was told a while back that VW would not be getting the audi variable valve timing system but i hope this changes. This is a tactic Alfa did to fiat and imo it was not a great idea then and is not a great idea now.

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It sounds far too small a power unit for an Audi A5 though - Big heavy car.

Not really, the 211PS A5 is about 85Kg heavier than the GTI, but will do 0-62mph in 6.9s according to Audi's figures. That engine has tons of torque and is well suited to an A5, and is especially attractive if you're worried out CO2 output. I think it is easily the best all-rounder in the whole A4/A5 engine range, including the diesels.

I'd like to see this engine in a GTI at some point, but I would be slightly concerned whether the FWD of the GTI could handle the torque.

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....Yes but not so much the amount of torque (mine has more and it's strong in a good range of revs) but how low at only 1,500 rpm!! Personally I'm not worried about a CO2 output but I can see how you are right about it being a good engine.

Perhaps VW should consider a Quaife diff like the Renault and Ford RS have - It really helps FWD. It would add at least £1,000 to the cost though.

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....Yes but not so much the amount of torque (mine has more and it's strong in a good range of revs) but how low at only 1,500 rpm!! Personally I'm not worried about a CO2 output but I can see how you are right about it being a good engine.

It's not really that low (1500-4200rpm) if you compare to the GTI which is developing max torque, albeit not as much, at 1800-5000rpm. I sometimes wish it was a bit lower on the GTI.

Torque higher up the rev range can be problematic as well. I have often experienced wheelspin and torque steer well into second gear on the GTI.

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It's not really that low (1500-4200rpm) if you compare to the GTI which is developing max torque, albeit not as much, at 1800-5000rpm. I sometimes wish it was a bit lower on the GTI.

Torque higher up the rev range can be problematic as well. I have often experienced wheelspin and torque steer well into second gear on the GTI.

....I assume you mean a bit lower in the upper end of the rev range, rather than less torque overall.

As can be seen from the plot I posted earlier, I find the Revo Stage1 remap very practical and I get no more wheelspin issues than I do with the GTI in stock map. Judging by my recent drive of a 290 bhp / 300 ft lb DSG with a Quaife, such a diff will go a looong way to reduce such issues.

My expectation is that the Mk6 could be a worthy successor to our beloved Mk5 but I think that VW and Audi need to share more to realise the VAG full potential.

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....I assume you mean a bit lower in the upper end of the rev range, rather than less torque overall.

Sorry no, I meant I'd like the torque to kick in a bit lower down the rev range, maybe 1500rpm like the new Audis. It would give slightly more in-gear flexibility when cruising at low speeds.

I definitely don't want less torque, let's be very clear about that!

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Perhaps VW should consider a Quaife diff like the Renault and Ford RS have - It really helps FWD. It would add at least £1,000 to the cost though.

VW have a bad habbit of messing chassis up when they have previously got them right when they start messing rather than tweeking. IMO for 90% of GTI drivers the diff is not needed. Knowing VW they will just mess it up if they did use the diff and do an escort RS turbo/Focus RS mk1 on us. (yes i have driven both at length)

I was not overly impressed with the renault megan with it in it was very focus RS like to me and i stress to me part. The alfa 147 Q2 though that i have driven at length has got it right. I have driven an ibiza with a quaife diff in and i was not over the moon with it but again different car different application.

IMO its only needed in extremes and imo again thats not what a GTI is about, a Focus a megan a SEAT yes there more extreme but a Golf im not sure.

I cannot see them using one myself at this time not when they have the 4wd system to try and pedal.

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