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That does look very nice - a bit less frog like from the front view. I'm sure it will sell well.

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Would I be right in saying that the Scirocco R is only coming in 2WD, whereas the R20 should have Haldex? I know it will have the LSD that's on the MKVI GTI as standard, but personally, I'd rather have that much power with AWD.

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According to Autocar that is correct, 2wd. Apparently they wanted it to be different to the Mk6 golf R20, and the weight saving etc means it will be quite different.

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and the weight saving etc means it will be quite different.

As would the handling, no doubt +++

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Could be interesting this, FWD and 265bhp isn't to bad but its not great, the RS seems to have got it right will VW I wonder?

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Could be interesting this, FWD and 265bhp isn't to bad but its not great, the RS seems to have got it right will VW I wonder?

Yeah they will (he hopes as he's typing this!). The Feckus RS lacks finesse. With a bit of luck, the R20 will have a 5-cyl turbo power plant with the AWD qualities of Haldex.

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What the hell's it made from? Lead?

It's got an extra 40bhp over a 2.0T A4 and it's 0-60 is only 6.5secs which is about the same? :confused:

My TT (225 bhp) made 6.4secs whilst standard!

Sorry! I'm not impressed by the figures.

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Quoted figures especially 0-60 ones meen nothing.

IMO any 0-60 time for a frontwheel drive car is down to driver skill rather than the car. A much more usefull figure is 30-70 through the gears for comparison.

As for the Focus RS its a real heavy beast compared to the ST they may as well have fitted 4WD due to its extra weight.

I would be very suprised if there is ever a model with more power than the 'R' at VW.

From Worthersee 09 Its not the normal 'R' but a concept.

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Edited by Snoopy

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Reading Evo today it suggested the the R Golf will have the same 4 pot turbo engine as the R Scirocco but with a few extra neddies to compensate for the haldex.

I believe Evo are running a test between the RS Focus and the 'Rocco next month. On paper, the RS has the performance. We'll see.....:)

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IMO any 0-60 time for a frontwheel drive car is down to driver skill rather than the car.

Audi should lend their test drivers to VW then ;)

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I believe Evo are running a test between the RS Focus and the 'Rocco next month. On paper, the RS has the performance. We'll see.....:)

That will be interesting. As you say, we'll see.

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1333kg i noticed in an article is quoted as the R's weight.

Edited by Snoopy

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Let's not forget that VW do tend to be conservative with their performance data. Evo test figures along with other journals tend to demonstrate this.

If I was in the market for a change I would hold on to see what the Golf R brings. If the Golf has 4wd then in our generally damp climate, my spend would go there as the power woul be more usable / user friendly compared with say a fwd 'Rocco.

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9VqbsWzKJMo you tube link. Dont know what to do with it on this forum?

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