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Shark - new VAG ECU security?

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Yep, it's true. It started after build date 05/2009 on some of the CR diesels, particularly the 2.0TDI and 1.6TDI.

It can be got around though ;)

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Can you?

Or is it a case of flashing in the workshop with a pin connector?

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What's the story behind this.. VAG trying to protect their products or something more sinister?

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Can you?

Or is it a case of flashing in the workshop with a pin connector?

Yep, it's a bench job at the moment.

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What's the story behind this.. VAG trying to protect their products or something more sinister?

I don't know to be honest, I just guess it's another round in the war against modifying cars.

The crazy thing is that VAG must get so much business from knowledgable enthusiasts who buy a VAG car knowing that they can cheaply and easily have it tuned. On the flip side, if they can sell you a 2.0TDi with 140bhp that'll go to 180bhp and you buy that rather than the higher specced, more expensive 170bhp car, then I guess they're losing that sale. I dunno.

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It's Bosch, they're using a new encrypted processor. No doubt it'll get cracked eventually but for the moment it's a bench only job.

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I would be inclined to think that they fully expect it to be cracked in the near future, but have to be seen to be trying to do something to stop it, probably due to some sort of E/U directive or something.

If they were successful in preventing ECU's being re-mapped, that'd be a massive industry effectively shut down.

I would imagine the profit on a 140bhp poverty spec car is probably the same as on a 180bhp highly specced model, the margin can't be much different? surely any extra they make would be on options added above standard spec?

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Probably, I dunno. But if you didn't have the choice of a remap and 140bhp wasn't enough for you, you'd perhaps be more inclined (in the case of Skoda) to buy the Octavia RS, or in the case of a Golf, the GT TDI or something.

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Ah Ben !

I remember when they were ALL bench jobs.... none of this plug in and 15 minutes later stuff .......

you were but a youngster Ben .... hell .. I was young then !

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Ben

Whats the lead times on the STS?

Can you explain how it works - does it only work with one car at a time (guessing it would) but wanted to know, if you are about and your number hasnt changed I'll give you a call in the morning...

Cheers

Tone

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Tone

Just seen this, sorry! My number's still the same and I sold the last STS on the shelf today, so new ones are about a week away. Drop me a line when you get chance +++

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Tone

Just seen this, sorry! My number's still the same and I sold the last STS on the shelf today, so new ones are about a week away. Drop me a line when you get chance +++

Ben

I'll call on friday - I need to get hold of matey over in malaysia to check he deffo wants it, as I am heading over on the 20th.

Thanks

Tone

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