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jayc89

Pirelli or ED30?

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Hi guys, new here, and looking to swap my VXR for a GTi.

Problem I have is I dont know which one to go for, so far I have narrowed it down to 2;

57 plate Ed30 in grey, 6k miles (yes only 6k!!), manual gearbox

58 plate Pirelli in black, 13k miles, DSG box

Which one would you recommend?

Coming from a VXR the GTi wouldn't stay standard for long lol :D My overall plan for the car would be to tune it to at least Revo Stage2+ so which gearbox do you think could handle the extra load better?

Thanks :D

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Hi jayc89, welcome to TSN!

A big choice for many would be whether you prefer manual or DSG. Those who have DSG seem to love it but I find that modern cars are becoming very uninvolving and like the involvement the manual creates.

When the models came out, the Ed 30 was perceived to be more desirable than the Pirelli. Some felt that the interior of the Pirelli was a marmite thing (seat material and yellow stitching. That said, many enthusiasts are now recognising that the Pirelli is rarer and in years to come will potentially be the more desirable model to have. All this is very much in the enthusiasts world and if you are only planning on keeping the car a few years then none of this realy matters.

My Father in Law has an Ed30 and is very pleased with it.

I wouldn't recommend one model above the other for most but if you plan to keep the car quite a few years then I would personally go for the Pirelli model. There are one or two dedicated forums for the MK5 which I won't mention on here but are more dedicated to modding /enthusiast. It might be worth posing your question on these too. :)

Edited by Tarmac_Terrorist

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I don't really 'get' the Pirelli thing to be honest, I saw one the other day and thought it was perhaps a bit pointless.

If you're planning to modify one then I would suggest getting a "normal" ED30 as any premium that the Pirelli may command in the future will no doubt be scrubbed away by modifying it. I personally can't see that the Pirelli will be worth any more than another but I guess you never know.

If you are planning to keep for a few years I would also buy a manual, less to go wrong.

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Thanks for the replies guys. The only thing swaying me towards the Pirelli are the wheels actually; I prefer them over the BBS rims!

I'm not sure if there's anything in it but which box holds up the best against tuning e.g. Stage 2+ 360bhp? Manual or DSG?

Also, I read somewhere the paddleshifts on the DSG box were an optional extra on the MK V's, is that correct? I would have thought they would all come with paddleshifts, but could be mistaken!

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I think padelshifts were an option only on very early 04/05 models. Could be wrong though.

Some run high BHP with DSG fine but personally if you're planning to go to that sort of power output then I would look to the manual box.

Shark90 would best advise as a tuner himself though ;)

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I would stick with the manual box, and if you're missing anything it

can always be retrofitted +++

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Buy the Ed30. Add a full Milltek including cats and a decent remap and you'll see 330bhp and 350 torques.

Say no more!

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Thanks guys!

I think I'm swaying towards the ED30 however I'm going back to test drive them both again at the weekend so hopefully that will make my mind up for sure :D

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Buy the Ed30. Add a full Milltek including cats and a decent remap and you'll see 330bhp and 350 torques.

Say no more!

Mook, Pirelli & Ed30 share the same engine output / suspension so from a modding pov, both as good. visual spec / toys is what seperates the two models.

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Yes, I get that, TT - I'd still buy the Ed30 - I reckon long term they'll hold their value a lot better +++

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The Pirelli Ed lost its appeal as soon as VW bottled it and decided against the original concept of Pirelli Yellow / Black cars, had they have produced a limited number of them in Yellow they'd be a sought after vehicle, instead they went safe and gave teh market something which doesnt look much different to the Ed30 and in fact I prefer the ed30 wheels.

If either retains value like the MK4 Anniversary then it will be a good buy I think.

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Can't believe what kind of money Mk4 Anniversary Golfs go for - £8-9k :eek:

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I know, I keep looking at them - had a real soft spot for mine, would love another red one, but TDi this time, but they fetch so much money for an 'old' car.

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Thanks for all the replies guys!

In terms of spec, what difference is there between the Ed30 and Pirelli?

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Some Pirelli info i had from when i nearly bought one new.

New Golf GTI Pirelli specification

The Golf GTI Pirelli has the same high specification as the outgoing Edition 30,

including six airbags, 2Zone electronic climate control, darkened rear light clusters

and body-coloured front, rear and side spoilers. The Pirelli also has the following

features which differ to those on the Edition 30:

Exterior

• 18” ‘Pirelli II’ alloy wheels and 225/40 R18 Pirelli tyres.

• Tinted rear windows

• Metallic/pearl effect paint as standard

Interior

• Sports seats – outer sections in ‘Vienna’ leather; centre of seats in Alcantara

with tyre tread pattern

• Yellow stitching on steering wheel, gear knob, handbrake, seats and

headrests

• Pirelli lettering on front head restraints

• Front centre armrest with storage compartment

Colours

The GTI Pirelli will be available in the following colours:

• Reflex Silver metallic

• Diamond Black pearl

• Blue Graphite pearl

(Metallic/pearl effect is free of charge)

Options

Options for the GTI Pirelli will be the same as for the Edition 30, except for tinted glass

and front centre armrest (which are now standard) and colours (details above).

Pricing

Prices for the Golf GTI Pirelli will be the same as those for the Edition 30:

Trim Engine and bodystyle Basic RRP VAT Total RRP OTR

Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd Man 3dr £18,561.70 £3,248.30 £21,810.00 £22,555.00

Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd Man 5dr £18,987.23 £3,322.77 £22,310.00 £23,055.00

Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd DSG 3dr £19,693.62 £3,446.38 £23,140.00 £23,885.00

Pirelli 2.0 230PS 6spd DSG 5dr £20,119.15 £3,520.85 £23,640.00 £24,385.00

Production

Production of the Golf GTI Pirelli will start from week 19 (5 May 2008), and the first

vehicles will arrive in the UK in June.

Hope thats some help to you.

The photos for the info above

pirelli1.jpg

pirelli2.jpg

pirelli3copy.jpg

And theres only 220 of them sold in the UK.

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Wifey has an ED30 and I love the thing to bits.

IMO, ED30 will always be a very sort after car and has the heritage as other aniversary editions.

Pirelli, I am sure is great and will always hold its value but it is just a special.....and the wheels are naff.

Pitch

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The pirelli has a heritage as its what the mk1 golf GTI campaign was called in europe. You could say it has a bigger heritage than any edition model as there just special editions to help sales. Were as the pirellis were runout last of the line limited run models of the best GTIs.

But if your going to piss about with it, chip it, change stuff, and mod it then yes the edition 30 is better as you won't bastardise a very limited run model.

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Opps..... Struck a nerve with the P loving public.

Well aware of the P editions of the past and the naff alloys they were shod with also.

For me the campaign models have always appealed.

For me also the feel of throwing a lever appeals in cars of this ilk and yes I have driven DSG, S-tronic cars.

I am sure you will enjoy either of the cars and the benefit of the KO4 blower.

Enjoy

Pitch

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