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I'd rather my money go to the people who are developing the software rather than someone cashing in on it.....but each to their own.

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No better than buying a chinese copy I would say.

But the original and make sure that Ross Tech are still here in 5 and 10 years time to support it.

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Yes I know what you are saying and I do agree.

I have my own IT business and I hate pirated/ripped off software or companies who don't fully license themselves as it doesn't contribute to my business or the software developers. Beside the fact it is illegal.

I take it every piece of software you guys use at home and work is totally legal and licensed, I can arrange a FAST audit if you like?!! :grin:;) :assfecking:

I would have brought a genuine Ross Tech cable a long time ago but circa £265 is a hell of a lot for something I'm not going to be using everyday.

I know it's not a mainstream piece of kit and they aren’t going to be selling millions of them but a professional and enthusiast’s version would make sense.

Obviously this company has seen an opportunity, maybe Ross Tech are missing a trick and would sell a huge amount more if they did something about the pricing. We know we are paying for the software development it probably costs them no more than $10-$20 at the very most to produce the cable.

Looks like I’ll be saving up for a bit longer, pity I’ve just done my tax return & spent the money!

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You can audit my home PCs and work ones as well. I own a software company :)

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Software companies, yes you are the worst offenders especially when it comes to licensing other peoples software!

"Its all right we've got MSDN so we never have to buy another license again"!!

Just pulling your chain! (even if it's true)!

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I take it every piece of software you guys use at home and work is totally legal and licensed, I can arrange a FAST audit if you like?!! :grin:;) :assfecking:

Totally honest answer:

I'm not 100% legit ..... but I pick and choose and most of it is genuine. For small companies I'll support them in the same way I pay a bit over the odds to buy things from my local motorbike guy. If we all just do it all for the cheapest price on the web then all we'll be left with is big wholesalers who know feck all about their products, only develop things for the best financial return and offer no customer service.

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Again Scotty totally agree with you, I live in a smallish village/town and I use the local farm shop, butchers, greengrocers, hardware shop etc. Even brought my R/C car from the local model shop when I could have got it much cheaper online.

All I look & ask for is reasonable value and service.

<rant> I used the local tyre place as they were as cheap as anywhere and well local. Managed chip the rim and scratch the face of 2 alloys. When confronted they denied it could be them and said I must have done it when driving home. Yes that always happens, concentric circles ground in to the face of your alloys when driving less than a mile back home. Basically told me to feck off, so much for local service there! </rant>

Brings me back to Ross Tech, they have a very specialist and unique product you can’t get it or something similar anywhere else so do they charge a premium for it, of course they do. Can’t blame them for that, but they have created this “third party” market by charging what they do. If they were to reduce the price by say $75-100 a lot more people would be buying the genuine cable. You only have to look on other forums at the amount of group buys that people try to put together to maybe get 15 to 30 quid off to see that. From what I’ve read even trying to buy 100 in a group buy you are lucky to get more than £15 off each one.

Their product is great, but I have been put off so far by the cost. I’m a big impulse buyer and even after 3 Audi’s all of which would have benefited from having access to VCDS I still haven’t taken the plunge.

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My TT was tuned and I liked tweaking bits. I thought I bought a genuine cable but it wasn't

My S4 was tuned and I liked tweaking bits so I bit the bullet ..... and it found an intermittent knock sensor that otherwise I wouldn't have known about for around 15,000 miles.... which would have been 'ring trips, track days etc.

I then upgraded to Canbus for use with my B8 A4. It's not cheap but I'd be frustrated knowing there are things that can be done that I haven't got so it's well worth it for me but of course it doesn't make sense for many people.

I think I've done enough cars for free over the years. Going forward I think I'm gonna ask for a small donation which should help ofset the cost.

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Just pulling your chain! (even if it's true)!

:coffee:

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My genuine Ross-Tech HEX-USB+CAN cable has earned me enough beer over the years to have paid for itself, plus the saved trips to the dealer when you need a fault diagnosis done (or even swapping headlights from UK to EU dip) means that a genuine cable can pay for itself many times over.

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A handy reminder! I must charge up and take the laptop and VCDS into work tomorrow, I have a mates TT check out.

Another genuine Ross-Tech Hex-USB+CAN owner. Infact ive bought two over the years, as i sold my first one, but then decided i wanted another. I ordered mine directly, and let the credit card do the conversion into $$$.

I must admit, I have used it more on friends and family motors, than my own, but i guess thats a good thing!

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£265 is not a hell of a lot of money. Try finding a tool that has the sheer capability of VCDS for any of the other brands and you're paying £3,000 upwards.

If you don't want to pay the money, then take your car to your nearest VAG specialist who can do if for you for a couple of beer tokens +++

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This may be a controversial response, but Ross Tech have made their software by (in a way) reverse engineering the functionality of the official Audi diagnostics system. Obviously they have spent a lot of time and money doing so, and improving the software, and providing customer support, but I'm not so concerned by people making a living from reverse engineering VCDS cables, when Ross Tech are doing a similar thing with their product. Plus I think if they were that bothered about it, it would be fairly easy for them to implement some other means protection in their software, rather than the current cable being a dongle method.

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Reverse engineering and blatant cloning of a product are two very different things.

One takes time and skill and the other is a rip off.

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While I think I agree with the principle of what you're saying, playing devil's advocate:

Reverse engineering and blatant cloning of a product are two very different things.

One takes time and skill and the other is a rip off.

How are they very different? Cloning a cable must also take some skill, time and effort. Granted not as much as writing a whole software suite, but some all the same. But even if it didn't, surely the outcome remains the same, you're copying someone else's product in order to make money.

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you're copying someone else's product in order to make money.

If the Audi VAS software ran on a standard PC that would be true, but since it doesn't what Ross-Tech have created isn't a copy - it's new software that offers the majority of the same functions as VAS (but not the directed fault finding - which IMHO is a joke anyway - or CP removal or SVN or ...) plus extra functions that give greater freedom to configure YOUR car how YOU want it.

So Ross-Tech are not copying anything.

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Came across this site as I'm looking at getting a VCDS cable but still can't bring myself to spend £200+ on it.

VAG Diagnostics Ltd - VCDS Vag-Com 908, 912, & 10.6 Cables

Anyone brought one of these?

Sounds too good to be true!

Despite a lot of the negative comments here, I bought one of these and can report absolutely no problems with it. Does exactly what it says and allows use of V10.6 Software. Couldn't be happier

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It's counterfeit though, that was the point of the negativity in this thread.

Edited by shark_90

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...can report absolutely no problems with it.

Update to Release 10.6.4 or even Beta 11.3.0 and show us how it works. ;)

Really sad that people feel like stealing from others is fair game. Probably one of the reasons why we (Ross-Tech) tend to stay away from this forum.

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Update to Release 10.6.4 or even Beta 11.3.0 and show us how it works. ;)

Really sad that people feel like stealing from others is fair game. Probably one of the reasons why we (Ross-Tech) tend to stay away from this forum.

What a strange thing say. I see nobody supporting what they have done in this thread far from it.

But nor do we stop the freedom of people to post about just a about any subject either, they just might not like our response about it.

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Indeed, the general feeling among TSN posters always has an anti fake cable stance too it, In fact I've never heard anyone on here recommend anything other than a genuine cable.

It's totally unfounded comments like that, that are more likely to upset members and make them buy a fake cable just to spite you.

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Sebastian,

That's a strange post considering the entire thread is people saying buy from Ross-Tech to support them.

From a marketing perspective it's not the best post in the world. If people like me are saying get the real deal and then you come on taking a cheap shot at the forum then it's not really encouraging me or others on here to back you up as we have done.

I'd really like to hear how you came to make that post.

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Sebastian,

That's a strange post considering the entire thread is people saying buy from Ross-Tech to support them.

From a marketing perspective it's not the best post in the world. If people like me are saying get the real deal and then you come on taking a cheap shot at the forum then it's not really encouraging me or others on here to back you up as we have done.

I'd really like to hear how you came to make that post.

Agree completely. Why would you post that when everyone is posting their support for your product and how others should buy the genuine article?

Is it because you are (according to your profile) a confused individual as you drive a Citroën C1?

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