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#1 cruiser647

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:49 AM

BBC News - On-the-spot fines planned for careless driving

Could be interesting?
Maybe a few tw4ts will take note of the stupid manoeuvres they perform?
But, once again depends upon the copper on the day?

Do you class it as 'performing a manoeuvre that makes another driver take avoiding action' or some such? Or just being plain stupid?

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 01:08 PM

Could be a good thing but what about the repeat offender that would normally lose there licence with this it appears that they might just get more fines, surely that element can't be right. I assume they check past offences before giving out the punishment?!!?

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 01:11 PM

Sounds to me that its going to be very similar to current speeding offenses - minor offenses you get 3 points and £80 fine on the spot, major offenses you still go to court.

Seems like a good idea to me, should save the police and courts a lot of time so they can concentrate on more serious matters
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 06:40 PM

I can see this could be a good idea for some real idiots however the police/law makers need to deal with certain problems like middle/3rd lane hoggers get people out of these lane if not overtaking and to a degree the problem will go away - don't get me wrong there are some people undertaking stupidly.

It's typical really, like someone breaking into your house, you give em a bashing to protect your family and you are hauled up in court as the offender.

But on the whole anything that can help with total idiots can't be a bad thing but the police will be after anyone and everyone.

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Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:26 PM

I assume the title should have been 'careless driver's' ...............not sure you can have a 'carless driver'
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#6 Tipex

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:08 AM

So how else am I meant to overtake someone who won't get out of the fast lane, if I can't tailgate them flashing my headlights, or undertake them?

The law is a joke!

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#7 cruiser647

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 09:55 AM

I assume the title should have been 'careless driver's' ...............not sure you can have a 'carless driver'
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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:54 AM

I completely agree that carless drivers should receive on the spot fines - they just get in the way. :P

So how else am I meant to overtake someone who won't get out of the fast lane, if I can't tailgate them flashing my headlights, or undertake them?

The law is a joke!

Given that a police officer would need to witness you tailgating/flashing your lights, he would also have witnessed the other driver hogging the outside lane - so presumably you'd both get a fine. ;)

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 10:58 AM

Well that's hardly fair is it, if the slower driver had been driving properly, I wouldn't have to tailgate/undertake them.

There should be dispensation for drivers who's actions have been caused by another road users!

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:02 AM

Well hopefully this would be applied in the spirit of giving police more discretion. So depending what you did, how dangerous it looked and what mood the copper's in, he might let you off.

Then again, if he recognises you/sees your licence badge, you're fooked. :grin:

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#11 cruiser647

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 11:52 AM

Well that's hardly fair is it, if the slower driver had been driving properly, I wouldn't have to tailgate/undertake them.

There should be dispensation for drivers who's actions have been caused by another road users!


I fear you might need to employ the services of the local doughnut vendor to keep the coppers sweet.

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 07:42 PM

Ah.....but there's no dibble left on the road to implement anything is there?

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:38 PM

I like the idea. As long as I'm not given a spot fine, obviously.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 08:48 AM

I like the idea. As long as I'm not given a spot fine, obviously.


From everything i have seen this appears to be general opinion of the population!
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 11:58 AM

I dont see how its going to work, the only time around me I see a police officer is when they have a portable speed gun or in the scamera van - surely for this to work you would actually need traffic officers out on the road in order to spot the offence?

I like the idea, and had put proposals to automatically police this via camera technology at a conservative party meeting a few years ago - apparently they considered my proposal a little draconian :(
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Posted 13 May 2011 - 09:12 PM

BBC News - On-the-spot fines planned for careless driving

Could be interesting?


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Posted 14 May 2011 - 12:32 PM

Two minds here
The last 2 mornings, I've had two right muppets (in an old shape M3 and a new shape Astra) on my tail who I would have loved to have fined on the spot
Astra almost collided with a van after over taking me, under taking 2 others and then finally the attempt of overtaking the van - one could only hope he did collide!

On the flip-side, could I get one for playing dodgem's with potholes? There are 2 roads on my route to work where I am all over my lane trying to avoid craters. To anyone behind me, I'm probably a drunk!

On another note, is it me or has there been a sudden increase on the number of people on their phones (holding)?

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 06:11 PM

This past week there was a traffic police car parked up at the end of the high road. I was behind someone who was happily doing 30 MPH when he spotted the police (about 15 meters away!) he gets on the brakes and rolls past at 20 and im of course right on his bumper.....

Who would and should of got a ticket is probably just about anyones guess depending on the cop.
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