garcon magnifique Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Ah, I vaguely remember some event or other - possibly to launch the Ascar series over here. Make no mistake, the Ascars were pale imitations of the real thing. It was a bold try, and I wnated it to work, but for oval racing to be entertaining you need a full field of cars that are fast enough to make it challenging. Your mate was probably bored because he was going far too slow, that oval is really too tight for a proper NASCAR, he was out there on his own so no pack etc etc etc. When you're doing 200mph, drifting round the bends, an inch from 30 other cars and half an inch from the wall it gets a bit more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Yanks are only any good at driving round in circles, put them on a proper track, where they have to use their brakes, and they wouldn't have a clue. OK, so everyone likes to take the piss out of the Americans and I know you like to post contrary comments Tipex, but all you've achieved with that comment is to demonstrate your complete ignorance on racing in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 OK, so everyone likes to take the piss out of the Americans and I know you like to post contrary comments Tipex, but all you've achieved with that comment is to demonstrate your complete ignorance on racing in the US. I disagree, very few American drivers make it elsewhere in the world, there are occasional exceptions, but I just don't think they are on the same level as the rest of the world, if you look at race series that have races in America (but aren't American race series), on proper tracks like Laguna Seca, rather than ovals, not many of the winning drivers are Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Ah, I vaguely remember some event or other - possibly to launch the Ascar series over here.Make no mistake, the Ascars were pale imitations of the real thing. It was a bold try, and I wnated it to work, but for oval racing to be entertaining you need a full field of cars that are fast enough to make it challenging. Your mate was probably bored because he was going far too slow, that oval is really too tight for a proper NASCAR, he was out there on his own so no pack etc etc etc. When you're doing 200mph, drifting round the bends, an inch from 30 other cars and half an inch from the wall it gets a bit more exciting. It was a few years back now, I think it was the opening of Rockingham, when I say he thought it was boring, it wasn't, because as a one off driving a NASCAR round a track is going to be exciting, what I meant was, he said he thought it would be a bit boring to just sit with your foot to the floor for the entire race, and he'd rather have a more challenging circuit where there is more to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 The reason very few American drivers make it elsewere, is because they dont feel the need to venture overseas as there 'domestic' series are so strong, rather than a lack of talent on their part. Spin it round the other way. How much success have JPM, Jacque Villeneuve, Nelson Piquet Jnr, Narain Karthakain, Marcus Ambrose, Kimi Raikkonen etc had in NASCAR races in recent years. Anyway watch this space for a young chap called Alex Rossi. He might change your views over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 And ASCAR is no were near a CUP NASCAR, infact it was not even at the level of the second tier nationwide series. Also drivers of the caliber of Jason Plato, Ben Collins, Nicolas Minassian and Kelvin Burt all found ASCAR challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I vaguely remember Ben Collins spending most of the meeting I saw facing the wrong way... My biggest regret the last time I visited the US is not going to the Dover NASCAR race when I had the opportunity. That's a small, back of nowhere circuit in US terms, but there were still 250,000 there on race day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I attended the race at the Monster Mile in 97. 250,000 people round a 1 mile oval with 46 800bhp cars running round. An experience you do not forget in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 That's the things with most American sports, having been to an American Football game, and a Baseball game, and a basketball game, whilst the game you are watching is largely uninteresting (American football= rugby for pansies, Baseball = rounders, played by girls everywhere else, same with Basketball = netball), the crowds are huge, and they certainly know how to build an atmosphere, you could be watching paint dry, and they'd still build a fantastic atmosphere. But try asking anyone about the sport, who to watch etc etc, and none of the 'sports fans' I spoke to really had a clue about the actual sport or it's players, despite whoooping and hoolering at all the right moments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 They're probably no more nor less knowledgeable than your average Brit sports fan. The NASCAR crowd stereotype is famously redneck, but they're generally a well educated bunch when it comes to the finer details of oval racing. I'm sure they'd be able to teach you a bit about "push" and "loose"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 My experience of NASCAR is different. I sat next to a Harry Dean Stanton look alike in a John Deere hat. As soon as he found out I was from the UK, he started asking all about the BTCC and in Particular Jason Plato in his debut season. This proved to be typical of most of the motorport fans in America, that I have come across since then. Very knowledgable and with a broad apreciation of the sport as a whole. Durring the NASCAR race I attended, the crowds focus of hate was Jeff Gordon. He was the new boy from California who was experiancing a period of domination and beating Dale Earhardt in the process. The geers and boos he got during the drivers parade were amazing. At this particular race Jeff was struggling with an ill handling car and was fighting like crazy to not go a lap down. After about 5 laps of side by side increadibly skillful racing with the leader, the whole crowd were on their feet chearing for Jeff at this superb display. That is a fan base who knows and apreciates their sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I guess if you are a genuine 'sports fan' in America, they you'd have to take an interest in non domestic sports, given how poor all the american ones are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Found my favourite quote, that kind of sums up the relationship between NASCAR and European motorsport: NASCAR Commentator: "For those of you used to fancy European terms like understeer and oversteer, 'Push' is when you can see the accident coming and 'Loose' is when you cain't." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Lol @ 'fancy European terms'. What they mean is terms that make sense, and are relevant, unlike Push or pull in any context with a car other than when it's being moved about by people actually pushing or pulling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted June 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Well, 2013 didn't happen but according to the report below: The promoter of the Grand Prix of America has confirmed a new long-term deal is now in place to hold a round of the FIA Formula 1 World Championship. The agreement will see F1 go to New Jersey until at least 2029, starting from next year. New Jersey inks long-term F1 deal - GPUpdate.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 If its really true, organised crime will be rubbing their hands together in glee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted June 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 Bet it won't be as much the new Sochi Circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 UBS in drive for $100m New York grand prix - Telegraph Read more: UBS in drive for $100m New York grand prix - Telegraph http://www.businessinsider.com/ubs-grand-prix-race--new-york-2013-6"] Swiss investment bank UBS has been appointed by the organisers of the planned New York Grand Prix in a bid to secure $100m (£65.7m) of funding to enable the race to go ahead in 2014.The 3.2-mile track is on public roads in Port Imperial, New Jersey. It snakes alongside the Hudson river and would give the race a spectacular backdrop of Manhattan's historic skyline. [/url] UBS Is Trying To Bring A Grand Prix Race To New York | Business Insider Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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