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Automotive investments ?

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So, pensions are crap, property (largely) isn't appreciating, how about cars as investments ? I'm not talking pre-order Ferraris or seven figure vintage stuff that lives in a museum, but fairly affordable cars that don't need too much TLC, that you might even want to drive now and then - before offloading 10+ years down the road for a fair profit.

I'm going to take a stab (but not a punt, yet) at the following, but I'm no expert, anyone got any suggestions ?

MK1 MR-2

Early Clio Williams

MK1 Renault Clio V6

Ford Capri 2.8i

S1 Elise

Jag 308 XJR

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Alfa GTV6 / GTV6 Spider

Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo

Fiat Barchetta

Alfa 156 / 147 GTA

This is an oddball one, but given how they're disappearing, I reckon it might... Fiat Cinquecento Sporting and possibly Punto GT Turbo.

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This is the reason I'm never selling my 205! +++

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Depends on what budget you are putting on affordable.

Lotus Carlton

Vauxhall Chevette HSR

Opel GT

Citroen Ami

Citroen Dyane (4 & 6)

Audi A2 tdi

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This is the reason I'm never selling my 205! +++

And it's why I can't see me ever selling my Alfa 75, too. Despite its capacity to constantly swallow cash.

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This is the reason I'm never selling my 205! +++

errm if you're "never selling" it doesn't matter what it's worth ;)

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Maybe given the fact that the Cyprus situation has shown that savings in an ordinary bank account are not safe over the £85k threshold, classic prices will keep up the march that they have had in recent years. "Proper" classics are now going up in value at a faster rate than I have ever seen before.

It could well be the case that anything tangible that is hard to tax will suddenly shoot up in value if they do the bank account robbing thing again. Classics would fit the bill perfectly!

You just need the storage space. They take up a lot more room than a lump of gold!

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Some great suggestions here, the A2 Tdi is an interesting one, 70-80's Alfas look good too.

Booster is right, as always, storage space is the issue. I've been looking to buy a small unit or barn locally for some time with zero luck. Probably a good thing - I'd probably end up with a very large fleet of questionable crud.

Some more for your perusal;

Corrado VR6

Jap Kei class stuff like Suzuki Capuccino, Honda Beat

Rover Mini (can't believe how much rust-free ones are now)

Chelfing Lunge ?

ETA - Cars are still ridiculously cheap in the UK compared to the rest of Europe, for now, anyway. Anyone want to sell me some storage in Leicestershire ?

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What about the mkII Golf GTI 16v with big bumpers. Oak green obviously.

My boss bought himself a RUF with no pedigree and spent a long time getting its heritage sorted - doubled in value in under two years once he had that done. ISTR that he paid circa. £20k for it.

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I've got two warehouses that are let out. One is full of washing machines and the other is full of dishcloths. If one of them leaves, I'll let you know but I have keys to both of them....! :grin:

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Put all the dishcloths in the washing machines, I dare you!

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I thought small bumper Mk2 Golfs were where the money was?

How about the MkIII / IV Escort - RS Turbos are already appreciating rapidly, but the XR3i has been left behind - but I'm sure will make some upward movement very soon.

Mk1 Focus ST170, perhaps? - almost any quick Ford seems to gain a following.

I'll also throw in the Alfa 155 - either 2.0TSpark or V6 - wide body, of course - that DTM and BTCC cachet must count for something?

As we're talking touring cars - Cavalier GSI 2000 has to be in the mix, along with the Volvo 850 T5.

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I've got two warehouses that are let out. One is full of washing machines and the other is full of dishcloths. If one of them leaves, I'll let you know but I have keys to both of them....! :grin:

Ta, I'd much rather buy than rent, but you'd be most welcome to a drive of whatever I've got anyway. +++

Cavalier GSI 2000 has to be in the mix, along with the Volvo 850 T5.

Cav, no - too many made and not dissimilar enough to the mainstream rep-boxes, plus they're crap to drive. The 850 T5 though is a car close to my heart, an 850R in custard must be worth a punt, they don't even rust - they'll just fossilize after a few millenia. :D

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Cav, no - too many made and not dissimilar enough to the mainstream rep-boxes, plus they're crap to drive. The 850 T5 though is a car close to my heart, an 850R in custard must be worth a punt, they don't even rust - they'll just fossilize after a few millenia. :D

This is my justification behind the Cav:

1995-BTCC-Thruxton-Vauxhall-Cavalier-John-Cleland.jpg

Good competition pedigree tends to fuel values - and there are only 87 road legal examples in the UK at this moment.

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4 years ago I VERY nearly bought a 1972 Porsche 911 S, in Tangerine Orange for £30,000.

(As some know, I love the proper 70's colours...)

It's a lot of money, so 'we' decided against it.

Anyway, see below.....

2uba7ute.jpg

Ouch, kicking myself, yes!

944

924

Anything 70's.

Lets all remember, you can't take your ISA out for a drive on a sunny day.

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And also 996.1 cars. Unmolested and without aftermarket GT3 body kits etc make great investment buys....

Just look at how the 993 has taken off in recent years.

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And of course all of that isn't liable for any capital gain tax at all! Wished I'd have been able to afford an F40 in 2000 when they were about £180k.

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S1 Elise

Yes definitely - good ones aren't going down - in fact 135s and 160s have gone up.

Actually even the more modern 2006 onwards Toyota Corolla engined Lotus Elise S was around 15k for a half decent one three years ago when I was looking at cars and bought the S4 in June 2010. Half decent ones STILL make 15k today.

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It's worth noting that whilst in the past LHD cars have been priced below RHD cars, with the problems in Europe, LHD cars are actively sought after by European investors and now exceed the prices obtained by RHD models...

I am thinking of another trip to California this summer...

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Oh, and having recently become interested in, shamefully, Caterhams, check out their residuals....!

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Saab 900 Turbo, already on the turn, local specialist dealer seems to be single handedly trying to push the values up, but there are still a few cheaper ones about.

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900 Turbos have gone for anything from not a lot above scrap through to a few grand for years now. All depends on who is selling and who is buying - Saab anoraks ask for silly money - and get it from other anoraks.

If you cruise eBay looking for cars outside of the enthusiast circle, you can pick up the odd bargain.

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Mk1 Golf GTI Campaign? Helios blue

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Investment grade Campaigns should only ever be Oak Green...

;)

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Sorry, have I seen 996s and Caterhams mentioned in this thread?

I shall sit tight, then :grin:

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