Waylander

Roomy Saloon not as dull as a Passat? (looking for options from A4)

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Time to slowly but surely restart the hunt.

Kids getting bigger and feel a little cramped in back of the A4 so need something roomier in the back (ideally still saloon).

I find the cockpit of the Passat a bit boring.

Did look last time at Honda Accord [wife doesn't like], Volvo S80 (still like but all seem to be high mileage ones), VW/Passat CC but seem to be only 2 seats in back [need 3]

If badge is not really an issue more comfort, nice cockpit; ideally looking to have ~£10k cost to change from my 04 A4 [less is obviously helpful!!] ideally 5 years old max and not more than 60k on clock what other cars should I be looking at?

I was surprised that my desired Jag XF is in the frame just but I am slightly put off at the moment by high ins group and 3l engine [this is my daily commute car too] but I do want one!

Cheers +++

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I'd say the first thing is what is your current A4 worth, then at least we can look at a budget. An A6 or Skoda Superb could fit the bill well the Jag could be an option but as you say running costs aren't going to be as low.

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Don't know.

120k on the clock; obviously had it since new.

I am guessing £4k max?

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You get a lot of car for your money with the Skoda Superb, plus the benefit of it being a saloon with hatchback practicality

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I think there's a Maybach going spare somewhere on here too ;)

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You get a lot of car for your money with the Skoda Superb, plus the benefit of it being a saloon with hatchback practicality

But it fails the 'not as dull as a Passat' test, as it's essentially a LWB Passat.

S80 for me - they're lovely cars with stunning interiors. Especially if you get one finished in the light marine ply type wood.

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But it fails the 'not as dull as a Passat' test, as it's essentially a LWB Passat.

S80 for me - they're lovely cars with stunning interiors. Especially if you get one finished in the light marine ply type wood.

Sadly yes I feel it does fail the dullness test.

Inspired by a couple of the comments decided it was high time I saw them in the flesh too so went to look at the Lexus GS250 and the Merc 220 while we are out as they were on the way.

Will also see how the mob feel about the BM 520D (in terms of rear space).

Sadly no Volvo showroom nearby so will have to venture out to Warrington to have another look at one

I remember vaguely seeing a poster a while ago for a pretty snazzy looking Kia (I think!) but can't remember what it is at all now

All the S80s I have seen on Autotrader seem to have high mileage as apparently Virgin Atlantic use them as their car of choice for the home pick service

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That might have been the Kia Optima. I would doubt that would pass the dullness test

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Our E60 5-series was pretty spacious in the back for an 11 & 13 year old pair of kids plus guest. 520d is an excellent choice as an all-rounder, 535d Sport will do 36ish mpg, goes like stink, and puts a smile on your face.

But really, I have to say, just get the Jag and enjoy it +++

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To be fair there is no opposition to it - everyone loves it.

Finances will be the only real hurdle so doing a full "survey" and will see.

The master plan was spend up to £10k for something to last me about 3 years and in the meantime save for the Jag.

Mind you the longer I keep the Audi the more goes into the kitty for one.

I see they start at around £14k for something 5 years old

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It's the Jag you want so just do it!

Don't they do a 4 pot diesel? Though they did a twin turbo 2.2?

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The original Superb was just a stretched Passat, but the Mk2 is much more bespoke offering.

Used SKODA SUPERB 2.0 TDI CR 140 ELEGANCE 5DR DSG for sale - PistonHeads (Ref 1496397)

It's the same platform as the current Passat, but stretched, with a funny rear hatch.

The interior is a mix of Golf VI, Octavia and Passat bits - seemingly taking some of the worst bits of each.

Plus, they're really, really ugly - especially from the rear - it looks like they nicked the lights from a Mk1 Megane saloon.

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You cannot tell someone their car is ugly when driving an orange 1 series!!! :roflmao:

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You cannot tell someone their car is ugly when driving an orange 1 series!!! :roflmao:

Fair point. Well made.

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Waylander - do not worry about the miles. If Virgin use the S80 D5 for daily pick service, means they must be reliable? The 5 cylinder makes a great sound (for a diesel).

Also, cars of that size/'class' are usually bought by people who look after the car and have it serviced regularly and fixed if anything goes wrong.

Check the E280 CDi, Alfa 157 2.4d, A6 2.7 TDi? (or E220 CDi, 157 1.9 CDTi & A6 2.0?)

Also, I remember Lusso saying that the 2.2d XF produces sh1t mpg compared to the 3.0d on the Jag forums. Running costs should be THAT much more. Check with a Jag sepcialist.

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It's the Jag you want so just do it!

Don't they do a 4 pot diesel? Though they did a twin turbo 2.2?

Only since the facelift, so no more than about 18 months old. There have been many reports of disappointing real world economy from the 2.2, so my money would go on a 2 year old 3.0 instead.

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Well a quick play on Autotrader yields:

£10k for 08 plate A6 with 60k on clock

For ~£11k = 08 520D SE with 60k on the clock

~£11.5k 08 Lexus GS300 with 40k on clock

~£12k 60 plate VW Passat CC (5 door) with 50k

~13k 10 plate S80

~£13.5k gets a 2.7D 08 Plate XF with 50k on the clock

60 plate Xfs are £14.5k +

hhhmmm some navel gazing to be done.....

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They look great and I did have a look but they seem more expensive than the A6 even - starting ~£12k+

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They look great and I did have a look but they seem more expensive than the A6 even - starting ~£12k+

Isn't that in the £10k + your trade in, though?

I'm not convinced by the A5 Sportback myself - but I have a colleague who loves his - and I can see why it works for him. Lots of space, hatchback - really practical.

However - the interior isn't up to BMW standards, IMHO.

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A Jag with a French engine.

That couldn't possibly be a bad idea.

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Isn't that in the £10k + your trade in, though?

I'm not convinced by the A5 Sportback myself - but I have a colleague who loves his - and I can see why it works for him. Lots of space, hatchback - really practical.

However - the interior isn't up to BMW standards, IMHO.

Yes it is but if I can get something similar (A6/520D) starting ~£1k lower for similar size etc etc then would prefer that all else being equal (ie these are "options" not the one) if you get what I mean? (it will soon get swallowed up in school fees/mortgage etc etc)

Yep space for a pram will have to be an important factor....

Re interior vs BMW: interesting! I recall I went for the A4 vs 320D way back when knowing the 320 was a better drive as the cab in the A4 was better.

Mind you I agree the 520 cab is nice.

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