Luke

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Good god, what I'd like to do to her.

Take her for a wee spin in your BMW - maybe a pub lunch too?

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Take her for a wee spin in your BMW - maybe a pub lunch too?

 

Perhaps.  And then ram the sausage right up her a.......:roflmao:

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The RS4 was an RS246 forum members car.  :)

 

I can imagine the thread:

 

"Does anyone have a car that they're happy to let VB-H sit in and squirm around in on the driver seat while she makes that noise that only she makes?"

 

[....]

 

"Ummm, one at a time please..."

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Was this 2 seperate items?

 

Thought the E63 was up against the RS6, not the RS4.

Different size and class of vehicle?

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Was this 2 seperate items?

 

Thought the E63 was up against the RS6, not the RS4.

Different size and class of vehicle?

 

Yep - they said if you don't have the money for the E63 or RS6 then how about ..... and they had cars valued at £1.5, £4k and £15k or something like that.

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Yup, a Mondeo ST220 as the bargain basement über saloon, an MG ZT* 260 as the mid priced, and the RS4 as the higher end 'bargain' saloon.

*I never know which MG is which, ZT, ZS etc, it was the one with a Mustang (ish) V8 and RWD based on a Rover 75.

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Yup, the ZT 260 was actually a car that Jeremy Clarkson rated highly too IIRC. 

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I was looking at ZT260s online. Too new for 18-30 but definitely in the right spirit.  And a bit of a bargain.

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The fact they only managed to wring 260 bhp out of a 4.6 litre V8 is quite an achievement though. :roflmao:

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This is true. Although too much performance could mess with one's pipe and slippers.

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Blimey, the price difference between the smaller engined ZT and the V8 is quite something,

 

small engined ~600

V8 ~6000

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The V8, despite what I've said above, is a good car.  They sound very nice too and in the low state of tune they have a huge amount of potential to make them very fast indeed (whether the chassis is up to that is something else).

 

Clarkson really liked it and said it wasn't an out and out fast car (obviously) but it still had 410 Nm of torque so it had a little bit of a shove in the back and the power was accessible very low down.

 

The proof is very much in the origins of the ZT 260.  It was derived from the X Power car they produced.  That had 500 hp and used exactly the same 4.6 litre engine - albeit with a big supercharger on it.

 

So, spend £6k on a car ZT 260.  Another £3k on a top end supercharger conversion, and you have a very fast, but very cheap, car.

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It's on my list of cars i'd like to own one day, the reason they hold value so well compared to smaller engined ZT's is because they only made 500 of them.

I think the smaller engine ones are fwd too?

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Yep they are.

 

The MG SV (?) always appealed to me but the body kit around it's arse in particular looked a little bit 'garden shed'.

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Same engine as the old, pre 2004, Mustang - with quite a lot of cutting the chassis to convert from front to rear wheel drive....

 

I remember a friend went out to buy a diesel Golf about the same week as MG went bust (2005 as I was in the US) and came back with a main dealer sourced, nearly new ZT260 for IIRC a bargain £13k....they were giving them away at the time, not huge sellers at the best of times, but then they were giving the entire range away by that point and boarding up the dealers.

 

I remember it well as there was a lot of banter about Golf TDI v V8 as he had gone out looking for something economical.... He then asked me to send over lots of air filter bits and bobs and even researched a mustang exhaust - proper petrol head he was! Good lad! 

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Interesting show tonight. Main item was AMG E63 vs Audi RS6

I wont spoil it for those yet to see it.

So the RS6 was a tad quicker and braked a tad better (but much noiser brakes) and weighed 90kg more than the E63.

The E63 was more frugal and had much better seats (which I would have thought to be important criteria given you sit in them for so long).

But the RS6 was the better car? They should have tested it against the E63 AMG S wagon...

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More frugal?

I don't think it matters when both were doing around 7mpg!

I think the issue they had with the C63 was that they simply couldn't get the power down, in the straight line tests, yes the Audi was only a tad quicker to go and stop, but on the track, the Audi destroyed the Merc.

Personally I'd still rather have the Merc.

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Its not really a real world test, as who would track either of those cars? But it doesn't really matter you got to see a couple of great cars being thrown around. 

 

I'd go for the Merc for the noise as much as anything and the better ride for real world use. If I was going for an Audi the S6 is more than enough for anyones needs. +++

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To put it into a bit of perspective about these beasts...

The RS6 is longer and wider than a Panamera.

That you would toss something that large around a circuit speaks a little about the size of your cohones. Have a SLoT moment in one of those and it would hurt.

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The used alternative feature:

 

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More frugal?

I don't think it matters when both were doing around 7mpg!

I think the issue they had with the C63 was that they simply couldn't get the power down, in the straight line tests, yes the Audi was only a tad quicker to go and stop, but on the track, the Audi destroyed the Merc.

Personally I'd still rather have the Merc.

They should have tested the E63 S 4Matic - 577bhp, 4wd that cracks 0-62 in 3.6 seconds.... Bonkers!

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Last night's ep. 16 is one Our new van man (Daz?) should watch.

The Ford Transit Sport Van review was pretty awesome, as was it's chart topping team test score.

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That should do the 'ring in less than 10!

 

The autocross stuff looked fun :)

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