Mook Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I'm not sure every manufacturer would do this. It must be killing their PR team to do it, but good on them for saying " we fecked up" and just getting on and fixing the problem. Doubtless many screams from a handful of people who'll want to sue them for the inconvenience and then laugh and shout about it on the interweb when Porsche offer them something very worthwhile and how clever they are for threatening to sue them. Conrod connectors are to blame, apparently. http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/03/2014-porsche-911-gt3-engine-replacement-confirmed.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 What a gorgeous looking car it is though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 785 engines to be built and SHIPPED globally to local OPCs to do the swap on client cars. Awesome. Porsche obviously learned their lesson from the US litigation about 996s and IMS failures. I don't recall anything in the press about Ferrari or Lamborghini making good when their various toys were catching fire because heat shield glue melted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I don't recall anything in the press about Ferrari or Lamborghini making good when their various toys were catching fire because heat shield glue melted... I think that's why it's hats off to Porsche for doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That's how to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Shows brand integrity I think - many thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinspark Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 What a gorgeous looking car it is though... Photos like that don't help me, you know. I'd pretty much decided on a 986 Cockster, now I'm starting to think 'if you're buying a Porsche, it really should be a 911'... Better start looking at 996 2s again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 ooooh... that'll be expensive. Those engines aren't cheap.... Good on Porsche for doing the right thing. How to turn a serious issue in to a statement of quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 ooooh... that'll be expensive. Those engines aren't cheap.... I guess they'll be able to recoup some of that cost by rebuilding the returned engines. Anyone want low milage GT3 engine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Will it fit in a 1 series? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Will it fit in a 1 series? Depends how big the boot is, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Will it fit in a 1 series? I'll make it fit in a Mk2 Golf - means I'll have six reverse gears and one forward, but feck it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Stick it in the back of the Golf, I've seen them with VR6 engines in the back so can't be much more work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 In an old Kombi - a splitty would be perfect, and there is huge precedent for this transplant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Its been going on for quite a while now. Customers have spent £100k+ on a car and then Porsche tell them not to drive it or its 'your risk' a month ago - a lot of them have not had a replacement vehicle etc etc They then keep you in the dark as to what's happening, and then yesterday announce that they will replace your engine for free 'at some point in the future'. An insider is saying that they have only just started testing the new con rod bolts, so that will take a while to finish and then the expectation is that they will build a handful of engines to start the swapping and then refurbish engines as they are returned to the factory, potentially re issuing with the correct engine number for paperwork for each specific car... Whilst its clearly the right thing to do to replace the engines, it has not been handled that brilliantly and they are already suffering lost customers. Plus any RS version will be put back until next year. It is a shame, as its a lovely car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Oh there's no doubt it's a royal cock-up. Shame it's taken a long time to fix, but at least they've committed to fix it - not like they can magic up new lumps any quicker than they can build them Do you know it they're just shipping new short engines to the OPCs for replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Articles I've read like this one: http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1403-all-2014-porsche-911-gt3-engines-to-be-replaced/ suggest a whole engine replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Quicker for the customer and cheaper for Porsche AG to ship a whole engine ready to plug and go. Imagine the dealer recharge on getting their techs to finishing off the building of a GT3 engine (and the associated risk of people who don't do one everyday having a go). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm not sure id be happy having a new engine in any car by a dealer, least of all a £100k car. Using any main dealer has never filled me with confidence. More a necessary evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well, it's that or take a fire extinguisher with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Or sell the faulty car back to Porsche? Surely that must also be an option for something not fit for purpose? Edited March 19, 2014 by Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm not sure id be happy having a new engine in any car by a dealer, least of all a £100k car. Using any main dealer has never filled me with confidence. More a necessary evil. Isn't the 911 engine and drivetrain designed to drop out relatively easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Yes, it's a routine step in a lot of service operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Besides, Porsche employ (and train) real technicians, so it's a bit different to letting loose your average VAG spanner monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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