Woppum Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Apologise, meant to post this last week after the event.... However When I arrived and saw a stunning dk grey with black cab, and close to symmetrical coupe I saw love......love that lambo were going to offer me for an hour or two then take away like a date with a with a high class whore....always loved pretty women however so knew however there could have been a happy ending although quite an expensive one. Within seconds of getting there everyone could see I was excited. I had downed a coffee, deep had told me how good I looked in it and Danny was trying to hold back his joy in fear of the salesman seeing that twinkle in his eye. Together we had to rain it in, stay strong, considered and calculated. I then asked for a price list to be emailed to me immediately for both the cab and coupe along with any un specced slots I could take if I so wish. Incidentally I could get a cab slot for sept delivery with zero dizzy..... When I sat in the car there was much more room than the hurrican but less still than the 458. I did not feel confined and claustrophobic however....it was acceptable. I was a little surprised by all the drab tan, choc, or black interiors with no stitch colour pops or fabric missing with alcantara but I suppose that can be done at source to my liking. Visibility seemed much better than expected. Apparently lambo have done a new software update that not only makes the exhaust loud as unit after a curry, but also brings the bhp figure to 752bhp.....hmnnnnn *cough f12*........ Anyway the main bits: - although very loud on the outside, relatively quiet on the inside and rattley - think flywheel on gt3rs. No bad thing, just still needs a decent set of pipes. My 458 has capristo and is far more raucous and glorious. - it's big, no new news here - it does shrink around you and will become fairly manageable with experience but it will never be a Porsche, 458 or Macca.....but then it is not supposed to be ! Big is presence and it suits the aventasourous very very well. - feel - massive let down. It's heavy, it's steering although very weighted is dead (Audi) and there is a sense of uneven weight transfer at speed which is a little alarming.... But I have come from a 458 which dances on its tip toes not its clubbed feet. - price - 300 odd k seems fairly good value for me , but makes 458 look supreme value and the Macca - well a complete rip off - speed - it's very fast, but it is hard to explain. Because it's so big, wide heavy and the throttle response is slightly dim whited - you do no really get to experience what a beast it really is on the road. Doing the mile straight at milbrook the thing is clearly an animal that can suck your face off but on a road of normal proportions u never get the chance to see what you can do. The 458 would run rings around it on any road I can think of. - gear change - oh dear ! Lambo cocked up. Lambo massively cocked up. How on earth can they make a Bugatti 6 years prior with triple the torque use a dual clutch box but not this ? Raw feel ?? Bollox ! Ferrari mastered it with the 458. The gear box is BY FAR the worst part of the car by a considerable margin. There is no sugar coating it, or skirting around it. The salesmanship eyes were just waiting, praying I was not going to bring it up and when I did......the inevitable intake through he teeth and...."yes....." That said.....would I buy one? Don't know. Will Ferrari go turbo charged on their next car ? What else will there be in 2 years time to buy . The car world is changing and what is only 80% right for me today may be 90% right for me tomorrow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Nice. I'm sure the sales guys have your number for when the next beast comes along; I'd not feel too bad for them. Incidentally, how do you get away with no front plate on the 458? And, how is the M3 doing?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Nice write up Wopps.  It'd have to be the roadster - the coupe will never be as dynamic as the 458 so might as well lose the roof and gain some noise.  The stealth fighter looks are growing on me, but then I was one of the few who instantly loved the looks of the 'boring' Murcielago.  Have you driven an F12? That would appear to be the obvious step on from the 458. A different kind of car again.  Talking of the future, as you know the word at Ferrari is turbos. I wonder what else will happen? I fear the mainstream marques may by necessity lose that mental edge that defines a supercar. Could that possibly open up a space in the market for more small but specialist manufacturers?  Or maybe your future is to sample the greats of the past. I could see you in a Zonda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I do like the looks of that Adventasourous! Â As you say, with everything downsizing and getting some turbos, this will be one of even fewer in the n/a side of (new) fast cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I prefer the nose of the Lambo, but the rear of the car is no contest, Fezza wins for me hands down and lets face it in a super car most people only ever see the back of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdiesel Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Have you had a look at a Speciale, yet Woppum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Surely a 458 Speciale has to be on the cards  I'm in luuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrve! http://www.jamesedition.com/cars/ferrari/other/458-speciale-for-sale-767363  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm not really feeling that if I'm honest. Love the Aventadorruas Rex far more looks wise. And let's face it, on the evidence of my M3 usage, it really is all about the looks rather than the driving dynamics ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Apologise, meant to post this last week after the event....  Some great roads around that part of the world. Hope you didn't scare all the animals away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Surely a 458 Speciale has to be on the cards  I'm in luuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrve! http://www.jamesedition.com/cars/ferrari/other/458-speciale-for-sale-767363  The one behind it would be perfectly acceptable too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ferrari = Ferrari  Lamborghini = Ruined by Audi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Lamborghini = Ruined by Audi   A touch strong, at least they tend to start these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 You don't buy a Lamborghini so it starts, you buy it because you want something that looks like the Batmobile, and drives like a (very fast) pig. Â Audi have made Lamborghini boring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Ferrari = Ferrari  Lamborghini = Saved by Audi   EFA....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Â Audi have made Lamborghini boring. Â In the name of all thats holy, what the funk makes an Aventador 'boring'?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 The Aventador is a major improvement in looks, I'll agree with that. However, they have ripped the soul out of Lamborghini.  Even now it isn't anything like the jaw-dropping impact that a Countach made when it was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 First thing that springs to mind - Boring  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I saw an Aventador on the M1 recently. It was MASSIVE. it was like a work of art and looked stunning. Not sure what it would be like to live with and the 458 would leave it for dead on any road with bends in it. To me it was a car to be seen in, rather than a car to enjoy driving in. Think Monaco, Knightsbridge etc. I'd like to drive it through some tunnels though, with the roof down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) The difference there though is as follows: Â You saw an Aventador and thought it looked massive, stunning and a work of art. Â Whereas when people saw a Countach in 1972 they reported it to the authorities as a potential alien craft. Â And that happened 5 times in completely different locations by different people. Edited April 17, 2014 by NewNiceMrMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 I saw a Countach in London when they first came out. It was surrounded by people, 3 deep. It was bloody mental, mad and brilliant. I asked for a poster and it went straight on my bedroom wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Those posters were still the best selling posters until 1985.  For 13 years it out-sold every other subject matter on bedroom walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_g Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Those posters were still the best selling posters until 1985.  For 13 years it out-sold every other subject matter on bedroom walls.  I've no doubt thats true -  but back in the 80's bedroom wall posters was all we had.... no phone, tablet, desktop background images which is what 'da kidz' have now!  You could argue people were much easier to impress in the 80's, these days you'd need a car to levitate and fly off into space to cause Countach stype fuss  Today, calling an Aventador "boring" is well.... just harsh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Those posters were still the best selling posters until 1985.  For 13 years it out-sold every other subject matter on bedroom walls. I had a red one, black background in a red frame. I adored that picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 White Countach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M8CKN Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 In my red, black and grey bedroom I couldn't have been more of an 80s kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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