Andy_Bangle Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Alpina B7 xDrive or BMW M760Li xDrive? The M760i uses a twin-turbo 6.6-litre V12 capable of an estimated 600 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and 590 pound-feet of torque at 1,500 rpm. Thing is, the Alpina B7 also makes 600 hp and 590 lb-ft, albeit at higher points in the rev range, from a twin-turbo 4.4-litre V8. Both cars use all-wheel drive. Both cars have eight-speed automatic transmissions. But while the M760i does the 0-62 run in 3.9 seconds and tops out at an electronically limited 155 miles per hour, the Alpina does 0-60 in 3.6 seconds and runs to an unrestricted 193 mph. The S65 still has more power than this and it's been out for 3 years now, The S8 plus has only a 4.0L twin-turbo V8 and makes more power than the B7 and 760M. Can't wait till the first the head-to-head reviews, someone give Chris Harris a call Here's hoping fuel prices are still low in 2019 Edited February 12, 2016 by Andy_Bangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) For the vegans out there, there's the BMW 740e line-up which consists of the 'regular' 740e iPerformance, the 740Le iPerformance and the all-wheel drive740Le xDrive iPerformance. From the press release: These three plug-in hybrid derivatives of the 7-Series utilise a twin-turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine mated to an electric motor. All up, this combination results in a total of 326 hp while offering an all-electric range of 40 km (25 miles) for the 740e and 740Le iPerformance and 37 km (23 miles) for the al-wheel drive model. The internal combustion engine itself provides 258 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque between 1,250 rpm and 4,800 rpm, allowing the hybrid 7-Series models to accelerate to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.5 to 5.7 seconds (depending on spec). Of more importance however is the fact that the vehicles sip just 2.1-2.3 litres of fuel per 100 km (134.5 mpg) over the combined cycle while emitting 49 grams of CO2 emissions per kilometer. Charging the 9.2 kWh battery will take less than four hours from a domestic power socket and under three hours when charged through a BMW i Wallbox. Edited February 12, 2016 by Andy_Bangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 The hybrid options look promising, I wonder how few of the V12s they are going to sell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Can't imagine they'll sell many, I'm struggling to decide between the M and the Alpina, I would normally sway towards M, even though I do love Alpina in general, but in this case I'm not sure. Same performance (close enough as makes no difference), so the deciding factor has be everything else, handling the Alpina will take it due to having much less weight in the nose, also on MPG the V8 has to be more economical than the V12, otherwise I'd imagine they spec almost identically, so the answer has to be Alpina, doesn't it? The problem with that answer is, the V12 has a V12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 The last sentence has it surely. Get the V12 and tweak it to make a little more power, simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 With 600HP and 600lb/ft I'm not sure it really needs any more power, that being said, even being naturally aspirated i'm sure it's probably within the realms of a remap to release another 100 ponies or so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Twin turbo V12! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Feck, I didn't notice the twin turbo bit! Probably an easy 800bhp then! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Twin turbo V12! Yes this ^^ lots of potential for tweaking of such a large engine. Crazy isn't it that this until will be as or probably more powerful than the engine in the Mclaren F1 overall if rather heavier I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Twin turbo V12! It's the BMW N74 engine from the Rolls-Royce Ghost and Wraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Want. Won't be getting. I don't own an oil field. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 If the B7 is the standard wheelbase body that's the one I'd hypothetically go for. Except I won't cos I'll have a Bentley instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Fear the obscene depreciation on both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Want. Won't be getting. I don't own an oil field. I'd buy it just for the 'key' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 I'd probably get away with never having to charge it, assuming it charges in the car all day? Probably not if keyless entry? But just another device to remember to plug in, it is cool, and I'd like it for 5 minutes, but I don't need a screen on my key, you can probably do most of it on the BMW app anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yes, that key is the same on all the new 7 Series though. I posted about it recently. It is very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 The key will be on the next 5 series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-bmw Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 That is not a key, that is a feckin' smartphone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Twin turbo V12! Ripe for a remap. Heavenly. Just imagine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Didn't the W220 Mercedes S klasse (1998-2006 shape) have a twin turbo V12 in the S600 - and the later S65? Respect to BMW for still offering a V12! I'm sure the only reason they offer it still is because they already have it their Rolls Royce models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 China will buy a few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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