Waylander Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) Just had a call from the builder doing the work at my parents' house. He had the Council Inspector out today to look at the foundations and was told he doesn't like the soil and so we'll need "Pelling" done to lay the concrete foundations which apparently is where a bore hole is drilled and the concrete poured into this and thence upwards to make the foundation. Can't find the term anywhere on google (likely because I'm not spelling it correctly) Advised it will be an additional £5k on top of the price (as it will be an outsourced company doing this) which is a bitter pill. Some input and advice appreciate (included what the actual term is so I can also try to get quotes) Architect advised getting a structural engineer out to review and advise and has given one name but I can't get through to him yet EDIT: Googled it and it is "Piling" Foundations Still it is a single room 5m kitchen/wetroom extension and £4-5k sounds like a lot? Edited July 14, 2016 by Waylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 I think it will be piling that they are talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) Posted as I edited. Yep that's it. Need to get some quotes and then also negotiate a discount from builder for the concrete and foundation work he is no longer going to be doing Edited July 14, 2016 by Waylander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Just left a message for my pal and builder of 30 years. Will revert with feedback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Much appreciated. Spoke to a Structural Engineer who architect told me to ring to come inspect and he basically said "If building inspector suggested piling then that is probably cheapest way, so no point me coming" He's given me name of company he does the calcs for to get a quote...although not managed to get through to them yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Piling is expensive, but seems overkill for a small extension. It may just be a case they need to dig deeper to find better ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 If you need some advice etc, let me know. We are a NHBC approved mini piling contractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 thanks guys. The builders had dug to over 5m when the inspector came and he checked down to 6m and was apparently not completely satisfied on 1 side. The piling contractor who came said it's a risk aversion thing. Because a couple houses in this area have had piling in inspector will make the call against this - there is nothing in it for him to take that "risk" when he can just take a belt and braces approach and keep conformity in the postcode so sadly that's that (his site inspection view was also that we probably didn't really need it but as he's insisted....) it's a 5m x 2.5m area which apparently needs 6 piles. 2 quotes so far one £2.5k (exc vat) and one £3400 inc awaiting a couple more. slight pisser is had we not had a partial grant for the wetroom we wouldn't have had to have the Inspector out for this and the £4k grant for my dad is wiped out by this added cost for the rest of the build.... aah well. Next I'll have to see how much structural engineer will charge to calculate for the 2 beams for the 2 chimneys I'm getting taken out of their downstairs rooms to give them more space (again this was always extra charge to me) :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Make sure you get a competent contractor who is a member of either FPS or more importantly ASUC. The guarantees that these trade associations supply are worthwhile. Again, if you need any advice please ask, we are Structural Engineers who specialise in underpinning, foundation repair and foundation engineering. I dont mind reading through some quotes to make sure they have allowed for the correct loadings etc. Watch out because it is a minefield out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 I wouldn't recommend piling in a minefield. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, garcon magnifique said: I wouldn't recommend piling in a minefield. Trust you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, dazdot said: Make sure you get a competent contractor who is a member of either FPS or more importantly ASUC. The guarantees that these trade associations supply are worthwhile. Again, if you need any advice please ask, we are Structural Engineers who specialise in underpinning, foundation repair and foundation engineering. I dont mind reading through some quotes to make sure they have allowed for the correct loadings etc. Watch out because it is a minefield out there. that's very kind of you, thanks. I've only had 1 written so far. definitely only going for approved company for this. I am completely risk averse in this project as it's for my parents. could you PM your email so I can send them through probably sometime over weekend (mum's bday today)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Will do. Please don't think that we are touting for work, we wouldnt be able to fit any work in for the next 6-8 weeks at the earliest. We just want to make sure you get the right foundation for your needs. Pm on its way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarMad Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 hours ago, garcon magnifique said: I wouldn't recommend piling in a minefield. You are going to new depths now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 15 hours ago, dazdot said: Will do. Please don't think that we are touting for work, we wouldnt be able to fit any work in for the next 6-8 weeks at the earliest. We just want to make sure you get the right foundation for your needs. Pm on its way. OH absolutelt - I am very grateful for the advice. email sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm Chris Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 There's cream available for piles... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 13 hours ago, Calm Chris said: There's cream available for piles... posting via 3G is clearly affecting the quality of your humour! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 just wanted to acknowledge the fantastic help and advice I received from Dazdot over the weekend. *I* got embarrassed about how many times he advised me and yet each time I received fantastic insightful responses. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 Waylander. On a final note, we priced the works on a like for like basis and our price came to £400.00 more than your other quotes. So you are getting a good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 I've just learned that someone should have submitted a bloody buildings reg application form and no-one has. odd that the inspector came out last week if nothing was in place. MEAP gave us the "good to start" on the basis of a buildings reg notice, inspector came round at call of builder so I wondered wtf was going on when piling guy rang me saying building control won't come round to sign off the foundations and of course no no fecker is answering a phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 There shouldn't be a problem as long as your piling contractor can give calculations, pile logs etc. Labc usually accept this without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Yorkshireman shuffles into his local Boots. "As tha got any arse cream?" "Aye lad. Vanilla or Strawberry?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylander Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 hours ago, dazdot said: There shouldn't be a problem as long as your piling contractor can give calculations, pile logs etc. Labc usually accept this without question. In principle yes.....if they agree to come out! Architect says he'll sort it in morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-bmw Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 11 hours ago, garcon magnifique said: Yorkshireman shuffles into his local Boots. "As tha got any arse cream?" "Aye lad. Vanilla or Strawberry?" That only really works when said in a Barnsley accent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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