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Kitchen Counters/Cabinets - where from?

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FML type post.

Siblings were supposed to look to get inspiration for the kitchen refit but have they feck.

They external skeleton all built not he's ready to demolish inside to need to take mum to get some ideas (and to buy!) new kitchen cabinets and counters etc

Suggestions for sources (in NW) gratefully received

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Benchmarx - trade only version of Travis Perkins. If you know any 'trades' then it's an easy account to open. They do good quality kitchens - 18mm/20mm thick units at reasonable prices. All carcasses, unless handmade/bespoke, are all chipboard in any case. 

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I tend to get my kitchens from Howdens - once again a trade only outlet similar to Benchmarx

Worktops vary depending on the customer requirements. Laminates or wood I'd fit myself. For quartz or granite I use a local specialist.

This is one that I've just finished today

 

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But the list price is a stupid price to start with.

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1 hour ago, DaveP said:

70% off list is achievable at howdens too

 

1 hour ago, Daz said:

But the list price is a stupid price to start with.

We have a Howdens near us and I think I know someone with a trade account there.

didn't understand what you boys meant here - prices are negotiable??

 

Daz that looks looks great! +++ 

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8 hours ago, Waylander said:

didn't understand what you boys meant here - prices are negotiable??

Yes, it's negotiable. If you can wait to order until October you'll get a better deal too. If you say that Benchmarx or Magnet are X cheaper then they'll usually match it too.

Oh and avoid Wren Kitchens, very very poor customer service. The product is OK if it turns up complete and undamaged - which it won't.

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Howdens are good, aside the range where you end up with panels between every wall and cabinet set. Howdens always throw more discount near the end of the branch monthly accounting period (more sales brings better staff bonuses).

Howdens do offer design services, but do make sure they use the correct design measurements (they seem to believe a wall 2.9m long will take 3.0m of units :) ).

If you know a Howdens approved kitchen fitter most are happy to buy through them which gets extra discount and split the savings.

All kitchen suppliers seem to love sending out a sale with either the wrong sized doors, the odd wrong colour door or incomplete orders. The saving grace being they tend to have very good stock levels and cock ups get sorted within 48 hours.

The sheds (BnQ and Wickes) products arent bad.

 

The best bit of advice is to get pre built chassis, not flat packs and always go with the 18mm ones for sturdiness. 

 

PS Darren one of those handles is set wrong... (Not really)- nice job.

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Planning to take Mr W on a recce trip to Stax on Sunday morning with a mate who has an account.

The question to those in the know here is ... I know Stax is good (or seems to be) for general trade supplies, what I realised I don't really know is how good their range of kitchens and bathrooms is.

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35 minutes ago, Calm Chris said:

PS Darren one of those handles is set wrong... (Not really)- nice job.

:P

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19 minutes ago, garcon magnifique said:

Planning to take Mr W on a recce trip to Stax on Sunday morning with a mate who has an account.

The question to those in the know here is ... I know Stax is good (or seems to be) for general trade supplies, what I realised I don't really know is how good their range of kitchens and bathrooms is.

Never heard of Stax, they don't have a branch down this way

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Seems like Gower are owned by the company that makes Magnet kitchens, so should be OK. It does say flatpacked so check to see if they are or whether they come pre-assembled? Flat packed are OK but you need to factor in the cost of making them, sometimes it can be an advantage if you need to customise the units.

This was a little B&Q flat pack kitchen that I fitted last month.

 

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One of my uncles is an exceptionally good chippie, when I asked him about kitchens a little while back he basically said everything that has been said above, with regards to carcasses, he said flat pack are fine, so long as you put them together properly, glue and screw everything and you won't go far wrong, he tends to purchase all the kitchens he isn't hand building from Howdens.

 

Having worked in a trade sales store (albeit electrical) as above, end of trading month gets bigger discounts, manager can discount more heavily than sales/warehouse staff, if you don't ask, you won't get, there are many factors in giving discounts, can be as simple as how much you buy, to how nice you are, have a bit of banter with them and tell them they can do better.

 

If you dangle a carrot in front of them, you'll likely get bigger discounts, tell them you have a few more kitchens coming up, or you are a chippie moving to the area, any story like that will probably get you a bit more discount.

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The other advantage of Howdens (may apply to Benchmarx & Magnet too) is that they have so many branches that if I need something I can pretty much get it that day. I have 6 branches within a 30 minute drive from here, so if 1 hasn't got something one of the others will. Also if something is unfortunately damaged in transit, I can get it swapped out straight away. No waiting for days / weeks like B&Q or Wren.

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Try your local independant place.  We had a new kitchen installed (as part of an extension) a few months back.  Ignoring the fact that we didn't like any of the Howdens range we went to B&Q, Wickes and a few other places.

The local independant place came up with a better design (though we'd already designed it ourselves) and solid oak doors versus veneer.  Service was excellent whereas the bigger boys clearly weren't that othered about the business as we were always having to chase them for information.  Local guys were cheaper too, not by much but if you consider that we got a better product at a better price you'll see why we're happy people.

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As was stated above Benchmarks is Wickes own brand and are made by Magnet, who are owned by Gower, who are owned by Nobia, a Swedish company.

Mrs E is HR manager in west Yorkshire, cost price available on everything if you know what you want & can collect.

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48 minutes ago, E-bmw said:

...Benchmarks is Wickes own brand and are made by Magnet, who are owned by Gower, who are owned by Nobia, a Swedish company.

I'm pretty sure Benchmark is a Travis Perkins owned company, as is Wickes +++

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12 minutes ago, JonC said:

I'm pretty sure Benchmark is a Travis Perkins owned company, as is Wickes +++

They are but E-bmw is saying that their units are made by Gower

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5 hours ago, Daz said:

Seems like Gower are owned by the company that makes Magnet kitchens, so should be OK. It does say flatpacked so check to see if they are or whether they come pre-assembled? Flat packed are OK but you need to factor in the cost of making them, sometimes it can be an advantage if you need to customise the units.

This was a little B&Q flat pack kitchen that I fitted last month.

 

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That a BTL and / or small flat?  The double oven is a fairly expensive extravagance!

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Small flat, it's what the client wanted. So they could grill and use the oven at the same time

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A double oven is an extravagance??

What's having 2 x 55 litre ones then? Shock horror we've never had a dish washer.image.jpeg

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Nah, this is totally extravagant :o

 

 

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Oh

I suspect mum want's a cooker and oven system like that - gulp

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