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Squeaks and rattles from roof - continued

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Had my car in for a week and they did a few things in good faith - wrapped felt around part of the mechanism near the back that was producing a fine clicking; changed the sun visors which were creaking despite the 2004 felt pads in the header rail; and they installed the V-shaped guides which were mentioned on this forum (thanks beerchug.gif), to stop the inner lining rucking up.

But the creaking I originally wanted fixed is still there - the one that comes on with changes in camber at all speeds, but is annoyingly intermittent. Haven't actually had it for a couple of weeks but it's been dry and I think damp/cold has something to do with it. (just on casual observation).

Can I ask - those of you who have had the roof latch mechanism fixed/lubed (Ari, Dolphin, HC) - could I have some more details, if it's not too much trouble ? A reference from the online service log via the homepage would be perfect, or even a service note reference. Neither Audi Customer Services not the dealer are able to find it. Failing that, just a verbal description or a name at one of the dealers who I can talk to, who might recall the details.

Many thanks if you can help. beerchug.gif

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Gcab, I honestly don't know what they did, other than it was something in the header rail.

Quite happy to PM you the name of the dealer if you think that'd help? confused.gif

Sorry, I realise thats not very helpful, but its all I know (I originally thought it was the suspension anyway!!) smashfreakB.gif

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Yes please, it might provide a lead. Some dealers seem familiar with the issue, others not.

Has anyone used the My Audi service log on audi.co.uk ? I wouldn't ask you to go to the trouble of registering your chassis number etc. just for me, but I was wondering how detailed the 'recording of every contact' feature is, if someone has already used it - I'll register mine when I can get the details together and report back...

Meanwhile yes please to the name, and any other details anyone can provide beerchug.gif

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Oooh I'd read about that My services thing a long time ago and never tried it, might give it a go (I'll let you know if there is anything on there relevent).

PM coming your way. beerchug.gif

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All I can say about my header rail is that I did a DIY fix as I was due to get rid of the car within the next week, but I couldn't stand the noise any longer.

I can not remember when yours does/does not rattle, but my header rail only rattled with the roof up and was quite a heavy knocking/rattle which sounded like it was coming from the front of the dash.

My cure..... big lumps of vaseline sekret.gif in the sockets where the catches fit and on the latches themself. It seemed to work fine and lasted long enough until the car went smile.gif

I think if I was keeping it I would have let the Dealer fix it, but as they preferred damaaging my car to fixing it, I couldn't risk it. Last thing I wanted was more damage just as it was going smashfreakB.gif

Hope this helps.

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changed the sun visors which were creaking despite the 2004 felt pads in the header rail

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My dealer installed the 04 header rail trim (4 * rubbe blocks) on mine to 'properly' fix all sunvisor issues. Doesn't fully sort it! Can't believe it. Really knocks your faith in Audi engineering. To realease the car in the first place with such a blatant and easily resolved fault was inexcusable. To mess up the solution openfire.gifopenfire.gifopenfire.gif.

Regarding the roof latches, the dealer solution appears to be the same as HC's. I've never had this particular problem but on both occasions my car has been in for various rattles and squeaks the dealer has greased these as a matter of course. They seem to apply quite a lot, definately more than you'd expect to see.

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thanks, both of you - tempted to DIY but was a bit worried by the thought of filling the thing up with the "Wrong Sort of Goo" (sounds like a Railtrack excuse for late running, I know).

Any idea what the dealers use ? I would just do the HC thing, if I knew what the long term effect was after longer than 1 week crazy.gif Would you use the same stuff in a car you were keeping, HC ? confused.gif

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My dealer installed the 04 header rail trim (4 * rubbe blocks) on mine to 'properly' fix all sunvisor issues. Doesn't fully sort it! Can't believe it. Really knocks your faith in Audi engineering.

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Odd, they work perfectly in mine... confused.gif

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Would you use the same stuff in a car you were keeping, HC ? confused.gif

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Ummmmmm probably not, especially as Vaseline is oil based and in time could perish rubbers/seals, but I didn't give a dung.gif as long as it worked for the time I had left with the car - which it did the_finger.gif

BTW my DIY felt pads on the header rails worked a treat too and lasted the whole time I had the car which was 7 months.

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The goo they put in mine was more of a paste I suppose. Some kind of silicone grease?

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Odd, they work perfectly in mine... confused.gif

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Maybe the visors are different as well? It seem mine are quite squishy and consequently the rubber blocks fail to prevent plastic to plastic contact.

Don't get me wrong it's much better, you certainly wouldn't notice it with the stereo on.

GCab, sorry no idea what sort of grease they use. I wouldn't want to do it myself for fear of getting it on the hood / seals.

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Hmmm... mine are silent, and familiar with the noise as last cabrio didn't have them...

Mine look like this.

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Thanks for the piccy Ari notworthy.gif.

They are the same as the dealer fitted to mine.

Amazingly (considering what appears to be the common experience of Audi service) it was the dealer that suggested replacing the whole trim. I was happy with the felt pad temporary fix they'd done on it.

Amazingly again it was the dealer that drew my attention to the fact the fix wasn't perfect! Not sure I'd have noticed (radio normally on).

So respect to Derby Audi for trying perhaps just a little too hard (far better that way I'm sure you'd all agree).

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I had the header trim replaced in mine and the sun visor rattly noise is till there too. I have noticed a couple of dents in each sun visor where they meet the rubber pads and where the dents are, it's down to the solid part of the visor. Would be interesting to see if the visor itself is modified to prevent this so that you get a soft rubber pad against a soft part of the visor.

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I cannot understand why they just don't make the visor or the header rail trim with a fabric covering smashfreakB.gif

After all VAG do it on the Seat Leon ices_blah.gif

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Same deal here Richy_uk. The visor is too soft and the rubbers just make dints in it.

Perhaps Ari will do us a favour and post a piccy of the back of the visor where it touches the blocks, so we can see if the visor material appears to be firmer.

GCab, did the new visors they fitted to your's sort it?

TBH I think I shall be doing a DIY fix.

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Well... there was an occasional (extra) creak before it went in, occurring at different times to the header rail creak. This (new) sound disappeared when the visor was down, and has now gone away on changing the visor: however, it wasn't really the main source of my problem in the first place.

What did concern me was that the guy said he thought the visors were 'worn' - but the car was new with only delivery mileage when bought, and I've hardly used the visors since.

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Gcab,

I neither don't know what they did exactly, but it solved the squeaks only for a three to four weeks time.

Currently, the cab is making bad noices again, especially at low speed and when there is lots of torque.

I will have it at the dealers again within two or three weeks.

Will keep you updated!

BTW: I will not be present on TCN very frequently for the next five weeks as I will first be off to Milan, than Curacao and than South Africa, and than laugh.gif the TCN cab meeting!!!

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Have a good trip Dolphin, and see you next month!! beerchug.gif

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Can the visor pads, shown in Ari's pic, be easily retro-fitted to a 2002 model ? I've noticed the annoying visor rattle and would really like to stop it ASAP.

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Dealer's will replace the trim to include the rubber pads, but as mentioned earlier in this post, it won;t entirely fix it. After owning A4 cabs before and after this modification, I'm certain that the sun visors are more solid with the pads, otherwise, you get the squishy pads against a soft visor. It just dents the visor and you'llstill get the annoying noise.

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weird.... i dont get any vibration noises or squeeks from the visors and i have no pad thingies etc. its a 2004 model.

why dont i get any squeeks then? different visors? or luck of the draw?

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