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How come these Evo things are so fast then?

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0-60 is a rubbish measure but...

276bhp Evo - 4.5 secs roughly

270bhp chipped S3 - 5.7/5.8 at a guess

so why? I know the gearing in an S3 does not help as we have to change to 3rd just before 60

how much lighter is an Evo? is the 276bhp rubbish to keep the Jap authorities happy?

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basically yes... and the quattro is quite heavy I'm lead to believe

Dave

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ok so someone needs to grab (subtley) a evo uber geek from another forum and give him a new home! smile.gif

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The EVO has less loss on the drivesystem, it is somewhat lighter, it has more torque and better spread gearing... Scooby also beats S-whatever without much trouble... Except maybe RS models wink.gif

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In Evo car mag stats at the back it claims

evo7 = 1360kg

S3 = 1375kg

so not much difference in the weight

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Hmm, well at Santa Pod I beat an alleged 350bhp EVO 7 in my standard 380bhp RS4 by 0.8 seconds over the quarter.

I think they have very short gearing which helps in the 0-60 but they then run out of steam quite fast.

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0.8 seconds is a big difference as well. Not sure why an Evo 7 has a quicker 0-60 time than the RS4 when the RS4 is actually faster in real life!

Saying that, you will need a 911 Turbo or faster to beat the RS4 from the lights if you dump the clutch.

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O- to 60 times can be very misleading.. some manufacturers over state them and others understate them. Audi are always conservative with there figures.

I once read somewhere that Audi test there cars with two passangers and a full tank of fuel. Others make their cars as light as possible.

Just need to take the figures with a pinch of salt and not take them as gospel. I feel they are there for a guide.

Dave

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An interesting point to add here that makes figures all the more confusing.... transmission loss is actually greater on the evo than on the RS4...... honestly! grin.gif when I get home (in gran canaria at the mo grin.gif return on the 17th) I will post the graphs of my old 465 bhp RS4 against my 460bhp evo 7 and power at the wheels is more from the audi although the shorter gearing and lighter weight means the evo pastes the RS4 and even my turbo! grin.gif

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so in summary an S3 is 15kg lighter and Audi are conservative with 0-60 times and Mistu aren't

but aren't mags (generally 2 up with half a tank of fuel?) not subject to this - best for a std S3 0-60 in 6.2 sec per Evo - I've seen 4.5ish for Evos?

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You can not compare a German car to a Jap car...no way...!

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Sam - I think they just did... tongue.gif

On under/over-estimating Manufacturer's figures, I'm not sure about Mitsubishi but I do know that historically Subaru were very conservative with theirs. Subaru's 0-60 time for the 1998 Impreza (UK model Turbo) was 6.4 seconds. Most of the magazines managed around 5.5 seconds. Mind you there was always a surprisingly large variance in the power of standard engines coming off the production line, so Subaru were conservative with their official figures, but I'm guessing Subaru UK made sure the UK press fleet were "good ones"...

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Its not all about 0-60 0-100 times etc.

Its the way the Evo delivers the power which is the key.

There's no drama even in the wet.The steering gives the driver plenty of feedback,and the car feels extreemly well planted.

Ok there a bit bland inside and quite expensive to run mine costs me around £3,700 a year inc fuel servicing ins etc.

not cheap I know. but well worth it when you get behind the wheel.

End of the day there are cars out there that will outgun a evo in a straight line.But point to point in a well driven car I very much doubt there would be many cars out there that could live with the cross coutry ability that these cars are capable of.

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...and you can't fit the shopping in a Ferrari!

I like the way the car drives too. Its just one of those cars that feels so chuckable! They can make anyone look like a great driver!

Had a shot of the new Evo 360 the other day and it is fantastic! Still shaking!

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The Evo which I'm looking forward to seeing and would love to test drive, is the Evo X - Supposed to be in the UK early 2008. [pics in the Evo X thread]

On paper it sounds like an excellent package.

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Sounds good - Like an aeroplane!

That 'Evo8 at Limerock' is a great vid on that link - A nice long piece of action where nothing got past the Evo but the Porsche(?) at the end just left the Evo for dead on the long straight. 169144-ok.gif

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I think all these times are kinda irrelivant.

Someone who knows how to drive and change change gears well will be able to get a much better time that the average kid just putting his foot down?

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