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PD Tuning box - any good and potential problems ?

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Hi all,

New to the forum and this is my first post.

I have just purchased a PD Tuning Box from Carpowerlimited (Germany) off ebay. I have a 2001 Golf GT TDI 130 and have been told this will give me a further 20+ bhp. My question is are these any good and what problems could I get. Is the life expectancy of the enigine likely to decrease. In general are these a good or a bad thing to put onto the car.

I'm a novice when it comes to mechanics and that stuff so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Hello. Welcome to TSN.

I had a PD tuning box fitted to my Audi A4 (2004) 130TDI Sport over the past few months. It was an analogue box which clipped into the fuel temp sender circuit. I'vre since removed it as it threw a sporadic error code up and put the engine managmenent warning light on.

However, for an older car out of warranty and no longer covered by VW/Audi assist - it would be a great addition.

The things to be aware of are that your cambelt services have been done and also it may have long-term damage, although there are no cases i can recall to quote...

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I also put a tuning box on my A4 tdi (130) from Dragon Performance. In my experience the tuning box did add some power, but the essence of its effectiveness is fairly crude. Its basically ploughing more diesel into the engine and resulted in plumes of black smoke. I also found that at idle the engine bliped slightly as through the fuel flow was irregular. Subsequently I removed the box as did not want to mess with millions of pounds of engineering know how with a 60 quid bit of plastic. In the end got a Revo software chip which is more a more comprehensive option in my opinion. The car goes like stink, puts out around 180bhp and still returns 50 to the gallon when driven reasonably hard. I would personally go down Revo route, but it is whether you can justify the cash (to yourself and your lady!)

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Darkside - you got the details for the Revo stuff?

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Ian @ Powermap in Bristol. he's a good guy. www.powermap.co.uk (will try and get his number off my phone and post it later as cant seem to access web page at the mo!) Dieselmeister...I will have to send you a piccy of my car, very similar upgrades all round on the aesthetic front!

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So I hear - your reputation precedes your post. I recall seeing a pic of yours a while ago when I mentioned I'd bought a chrome grill kit. Turns a few heads does it not...

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Sure does. Although my friend who is also into his Audi's always says 'Looks like Puff Daddy is round at your place' whenever he comes round! Got the mirrors fitted the other day and they look greast against Mauritius Blue. Will have to check out your chrome lights at the back, looked around for mine for ages! Where did you get those front light chrome surrounds? Nice little mod.

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Tuning Box - I must admit I would always spend the extra and go for a remap, having looked at a few tuning boxes I dont see how they do anything other than fool sensors, whereas a remap actualy changes fuel / air parameters and so in theory should be better in the long term.

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I had a Revo re-map on my 2001 A3 130 Quattro, whilst the car did perform better I was not happy at all with the power delivery and torque.

The power delivery was very brutal and the torque was so high that the operating parameters were exceeded and the engine actually backed off, giving the sensation that the ESP was cutting in, ok - I may have been the 'first' to have the Revo re-map and they may have upgraded their programme, but in the end I changed to an Oettinger remap by RSD Motorsport, much more enjoyable to drive and with the added bonus of being TUV approved.

Try and compare a Revo with an Oettinger - then make an informed choice.

Good luck.

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Sure does. Although my friend who is also into his Audi's always says 'Looks like Puff Daddy is round at your place' whenever he comes round! Got the mirrors fitted the other day and they look greast against Mauritius Blue. Will have to check out your chrome lights at the back, looked around for mine for ages! Where did you get those front light chrome surrounds? Nice little mod.

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Got them from e-bay - you need some Osram SilverStar indicator bulbs too! The chrome light surrounds - think the guy got dropped from e-bay, but PM me if you want his e-mail address!

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I had a Revo re-map on my 2001 A3 130 Quattro, whilst the car did perform better I was not happy at all with the power delivery and torque.

The power delivery was very brutal and the torque was so high that the operating parameters were exceeded and the engine actually backed off, giving the sensation that the ESP was cutting in, ok - I may have been the 'first' to have the Revo re-map and they may have upgraded their programme, but in the end I changed to an Oettinger remap by RSD Motorsport, much more enjoyable to drive and with the added bonus of being TUV approved.

Try and compare a Revo with an Oettinger - then make an informed choice.

Good luck.

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Exactly why the tuning box is a good alternative - not as harsh!

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I think the tuning box is an alternative, but generally they just 'overfuel' - the best option is a re-map dedicated to your car and hopefully one that is TUV approved, at least with that approval you know that the programme has been vigouresly tested to the highest standard.

The problem is which remap, you should also consider MTM, ABT did one as well but they are not represented in the UK now which is a pity, it is a great product.

I've used Oettinger on petrol and diesel cars and found all remaps very good, they suit my style of driving.

Without sounding too condesecnding, I've always considered that the tuning box to be a quick'n'cheap alternative to a re-map, but as they say 'you pays your money and you take your choice'.

again - good luck.

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I used to have a Tunit Box on my Golf which was alot of fun, however after reading many posts I decided to sell the tuning box and took a trip down to AMD.

The remap is much better, the power gain is much smoother than the box and the car is quicker. I had the Miltek fitted as well which I can highly recommend.

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I would agree with you. Although these boxes work and are good fun, a switchable remap is probably the best option!

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