fangio Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 How fast 0-60 and top speed are the MK 3 8 & 16 valve golfs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loddrik Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 http://www.fasthatchbacks.com/ All the info you should need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 When i had an 8v, I went up against my mate in a Mazda 1.8V6 (0-60 in about 7.8). There was nothing in it. Don't believe the mags... drive the 8v, it belies its figures and WILL put a smile on your face! It felt faster than the car i came from, a calibra 16v which had a 0-60 time of just under 8 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangio Posted March 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I didn't realise that you lot were so slow, now I understand why you are always modifying your cars. I'd be well p*ssed if I bought a GTI and it was that slow. I just scrapped a Volvo 740 that would do it in 8.6 secs and top at 140, I found this out on the way to the scrappers!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, what you really want is a Fiat Coupe 20 Valve Turbo 0 - 60 in 6.2 secs (personal time) Over 160mph (verified by many people) 14.4 standing 1/4 mile, as completed by standard car this month at RWYB Santa Pod. Faster than a new WRX STI and humiliates Audi TT's!!!!!!! AND LOOKS THE NUTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Must put you right on that last statement. A 225 TT will run 14.5/14.6 regularly at the Pod so 14.4 certainly won't humiliate it.Also,that figure for the Fiat is a one off,from one car.They usually run more like 14.7/14.8 so will be "humiliated" by the TT! Just out of interest-why the Golf question? Surely you didn't hink that 120/150bhp VW's would compete with a 220bhp Fiat Coupe? Or have you been scared at some point???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Very random "snipe" there. And who are "you lot?" All Golfs? Fiats are fast but have a habit of falling apart VERY quickly. My mate has had two and spent £1000s keeping it on the road. As for the mk3 - I had a 16V for three years and loved it. It's usefully faster than an 8V (about 8s to 60 vs 9.5ish) and I really like the engine. Also a bit more sporty. But (Fangio style) a Mitsubishi Evo 8 400 is quicker (?!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] But (Fangio style) a Mitsubishi Evo 8 400 is quicker (?!!) [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Anyway, what you really want is a Fiat Coupe 20 Valve Turbo 0 - 60 in 6.2 secs [/ QUOTE ] Cheers Fangio, Your right, i've got to get me one of those! I've got £2.75 on me... that should get me a nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 [quoteCheers Fangio, Your right, i've got to get me one of those! I've got £2.75 on me... that should get me a nice one [/ QUOTE ] I'd want change personally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I'd want change personally! [/ QUOTE ] I was holding a little back for a roll of tin foil, just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangio Posted March 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Well an Evo 8 is 5 times the price and looks like a scalextric car!!!!! To get 14.5/14.6 you will have to have half the transmission changed in 12 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that costs equally as much as coupe repairs. Pod aside, I have never heard of or personally found a driver who can produe or is willing to replicate this when challenged At no point have I been worried in the coupe, but have been able to reel in golfs in really shite cars in the past and was amazed it was so easy. PS. My coupe is my 5th car and I went out looking to spend £20k for fun and came back with one of these after testing Corrado VR6, various gti golfs, audi TT 225, 3.2, RX8, Porsche 944, Nissan 350Z, Integra Type R etc etc. I have just as much fun in my coupe as my 2004 XKR SUPERCHARGER Missus cant believe I take the coupe over the Jag or BMW In the end, each to their own, but it seems like the GTI brand is the main reason to buy a golf, image over substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 You went and test drove all those cars and genuinely thought the Coupe was the best? This has to be a wind-up! Which 944 did you drive? A 2.7 Lux or something.Can't have been a turbo else you'd have realised it's on a different planet in every respect to the Fiat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 [ QUOTE ] In the end, each to their own, but it seems like the GTI brand is the main reason to buy a golf, image over substance. [/ QUOTE ] Well obviously quality isn't on your agenda, if you picked a Fiat Coupe over a TT or 350z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Fiat Coupe over an XKR, 350Z, 944 - OMG - THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE HEARD ALL YEAR!!!! What an absolute lord of Bull Sh*te. My Fiat Coupe owning mate would bite off his own arm for a "Golf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangio Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Activa - Thought you drove a citroen. 944 3.0 S2, done porsche before and agree good, but after testing cars realised I wanted a fwd toy. I believe that the Fiat would be easier to drive fast on wet or unfamiliar country roads and therefore on par with a 944. Nearly bought 911 instead of XKR and will consider in future. Only interested in 911 LeMan - Are you saying that anything which requires care is crap including TVR, Ferrari, Lotus. Practicality should not be a reason for choosing a car, it certainly does not make an icon! MattR32 - Perhaps your mate needs an inconspicuous practical car to commute to work in? Or perhaps a R32 would be at the upper limit of his price range. If your car has to be your only transport, taxi, toy, pool car etc I am sure that the golf is a good compromise . If I needed a car for this I would also compromise. On the right day the sound of the coupe sucking the road in through the drilled airbox, the dump valve and the stainless steel exhaust as you spank it through your favourite corners is hard to beat. It is a real giant killer, and cross country is almost impossible to lose. Huge torque, ridiculous speed, attracts only positive comments, no adverse reaction unlike BMW/golf/merc, fantastic sound, traction control, predictible and safe but can be provoked nicely into lift off oversteer Only car the missus could get in and feel comfortable to drive HARD, I can't lose her on country lanes in the XKR and that has 150bhp more!!! The Coupe 20VT was the fastest fwd production car for may years and even now you are talkig 1/2 sec here and there. When launched it was described by Autocar as the spiritual successor to the escort cosworth . I take the view that each car should be used as intended. I have a Discovery for the rough stuff, Jag for rwd fun and cruising, BMW for the missus, Fiat as the ultimate fwd fun and I have a Porsche Speedster replica (beetle - amazing 1300cc powerhouse!!, lovely red leather though!!!)Bought this because its really really cute and the missus told me she had to heve it!!!! Have not really found out what this one if for apart from looking cool and for the missus to pose in. Once a car is a compromise, it can never truely be great. The R32 will be remembered because it has a V8, not because of its speed or style. Coupe is my cheapest car by £10,000 and gets the most use, I think that says alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Aah an S2,that may explain things. Even though they are excellent cars in their own right they really are watered down in the performance stakes compared to the turbo model.In reality the S2 is no quicker than the Fiat and like you say,with rear wheel drive handling maybe a little to scary in the wet for the missus to be using. I must take issue with the "fastest front-drive car for many years" statement though.Integra Type-R's were around at the same time and driven properly will easily perform aswell as the Fiat even with the torque disadvantage.Of course the drawback with the Honda is that you can't modify them cheaply whereas you throw a few hundred at the Fiat and you have better performance instantly. And yes I do drive a Citroen but don't really see what that has to do with things.Except the fact that it will out handle the Fiat convincingly.Even to this day no other FWD car has generated the same cornering forces as the Activa,only bettered by a handful of cars,one of those being an F40-hardly an embarrasment! And for the record I'll be getting a 44 turbo SE in the next few days as a second car so do have grounds after test driving them(and having driven coupes when my friend worked for Fiat)for my comments. And a R32 V8? Can't say I've ever driven one of them but I'm sure TSNers will be queuing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 [ QUOTE ] LeMan - Are you saying that anything which requires care is crap including TVR, Ferrari, Lotus. Practicality should not be a reason for choosing a car, it certainly does not make an icon! [/ QUOTE ] i never said that, can't you read. Quality isn't about reliability, it's about having a car that isn't made with fag paper and sticky back plastic. Anyway dude, you're all over the place. In your first post you said that your fiat coupe was your 5th car. I'm losing count now of all the ones you've mentioned. I get the feeling you've got a modified bean can on your drive, a copy of Autocar under your mouse, and a large chip on your shoulder I'm interested to see pictures of the infamous R32 V8 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 STUPID me! Why didn't I buy a ten bob FIAT coupe instead of an R32? What a fool I am.... Fangio - You are talking total and utter sh*te. A V8 R32?!!!! Spot the give away. Pleae stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Matt, I'm likin' his threads... don't make him stop. PS: ten bob FIAT!!!!! - you'd be ripped off!, i won't go higher than two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 LeMan - I suppose it's mildy entertaining. I was going to buy a country estate in Wlitshire but I preferred a council house in Bristol so went for that instead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I see him now, whipping through his copy of Revs, trying to find a few more gems to bless us with... a V12 Corsa perhaps!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I just saw a Fiat Coupe 20V in blue. Panel gaps like the Grand Canyon and a paint finish akin to a brass rubbing. Fast but, for me, about as desirable as an Umbro shell suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 [ QUOTE ] I just saw a Fiat Coupe 20V in blue. Panel gaps like the Grand Canyon and a paint finish akin to a brass rubbing. Fast but, for me, about as desirable as an Umbro shell suit. [/ QUOTE ] But remember, it doesn't matter, he still has his BMW, Discovery, Porsche and XKR for sophistication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR32 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 ...and a Lear Jet for burning Novas off at the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 [ QUOTE ] ...and a Lear Jet for burning Novas off at the lights. [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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