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Richie28

130 TDI Performance

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Advice pls chaps, like all new TDI owners I am eager to get a little bit of extra power out of my new PD unit. I have installed a KNN panel filter and will be flushing the injector system with the millers treatment which comes highly recommended by many posts. However, I want more... ECLIPSe.gif...of course! is there a way I can check the engine without incuring the arse fecking wrath of VW 123576-assfeck.gif ? Im assured that the plug in units are bad news (over fueling etc) and a remap is the way to go. But at £500 a pop the price tag has wincing a tad! blush.gif

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To be honest I'd ditch the K&N panel, the oil on the filter (if it's oiled) can create a film on the MAF and lead to incorrect fuelling and lost performance.

If you mean check the fault codes on your engine check out vag.com. You'll need to download the software and buy the appropriate lead direct, however it will probably pay for itself over a short period of time if you are keen on DIY motor maintenance.

Plug in units do indeed overfuel and therfore increase the output of the engine, they achieve this normally by just having a resistor between the wiring loom coming from the engine back to the ECU. (Some are reputed to be better than others however!)

The best route would be to get a remap, if you want a stealth remap go for one that is uploadable through the OBDII port.

Many tuners offer this option now including APR, Revo, AmD etc.etc.

The AmD version has the benefit of being able to completely download the code out of the ECU with a simple push of the button. The Revo version is rumoured to simply to place a torque limit on their code.

If the car is your own, I would go the remap route everytime, and get something that is suited to your car, rather than a crude solution.

Having said that if you plan to sell the car in a year or so, then it's unlikely to give you too many problems in the short term.

Welcome aboard mate!

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The Revo version is rumoured to simply to place a torque limit on their code.

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errmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... not in my experience Nick NONO3.GIF

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I have used APR, Revo, and AmD... to be honest all give a good but different result.

Can't remember where I heard the Revo thing from, but I am happy with the code!

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Go for the Oettinger conversion - you wont regret it on an Oil burner.

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Oettinger? RSD do it for £595 + VAT...Far too expensive!!! Yes, I am tight...

Is it normal to have turbo lag below 2000rpm ? It also keeps stalling as well, maybe down to my pants driving technique ??

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Oettinger? RSD do it for £595 + VAT...Far too expensive!!! Yes, I am tight...

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Believe me, the Oettinger remap is far better than any Revo or AMD 'remap', you pay for what you get (in a nutshell).

I know, I've been there 169144-ok.gif

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Also... think about it like this....

Its easy to do £600 of damage to your car by a botched tuning box, there have been nightmare stories of oily turbo's etc.etc.

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I hear that the only difference between the PD 130 and 150 is the manifold ? might be a ckeeky alt to remapping?

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I thought the compression ratio, turbo and intercoolers were different, but I may stand corrected by someone who knows a lot more than I!

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I went for the cheapo analigue tuning box, which was fun, but eventually threw an overheat code on the fuel temp sender! Then I sold the car....

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I hear that the only difference between the PD 130 and 150 is the manifold ? might be a ckeeky alt to remapping?

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Nope - because even if you make the changes your cars fueling will still be regulated by the ECU code, the only way to make that change would be to get a remap.

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A nice littel trick for you.

Put a 220 ohm resistor across the fuel temperature sensor plug,(it is on the fuel line near the head nad just unplugs) and leave it unplugged with the resistor in.

The ECU then thinks you're diesel is at 116 degrees C.

Hot diesel is less dense than cold diesel, so the ECU squirts more in, the mod is good for 10bhp or so, and is definately noticable.

You can buy the resistor from RS or Maplin for about 10p.

The 150 has the following "minor" differences to the 130.

Unit Injectors, Pistons, Rods, Crank, Turbo and ECU. Some later models also have a larger intake diameter.

Good Luck

T

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I wouldn't pay neck end of £400 for a tuning box, when you can get a remap for less than that, and a GOOD remap for not a lot more. As for the "Evry mod", a variable potentiometer linked in series with a push button on / off switch is a better bet than a resistor. Still wouldn't do it, but food for thought.

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I hear that the only difference between the PD 130 and 150 is the manifold ? might be a ckeeky alt to remapping?

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With Chris here. Take the block apart and compare the sizes of the con rods. Just like the 1.8T range - con rods twice as chunky in a 225 TT than a stock Golf GTi.

Ian

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