damianmkv Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Noticed it yesterday. Loads of it when accelerating on the M40 - in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th. Huge clouds of it all the time I accelerated hard. Any thoughts as to whats going on please ? Is it running lean ? Or is it to do with too much oil ? Or..or ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Sounds like a diesel to me mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Your turbo oil seal is on the way out by the sound of things, and it's burning engine oil. Don't drive it until you find out what's going on, as you'll run the risk of knacking the engine big time. Check the oil level, and see if it's gone down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulkbear Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 Sounds like you are burning water not oil get it to a dealer A.S.A.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpongpo Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 water + heat = white smoke (steam)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmmacauley Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 White smoke can also mean the cylinder head gasket has a leak although it usually happens in much older cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 I'm with Rusty-sounds more like the blower. If it was the head gasket it wouldn't do it all the time.Once the turbo starts doing it,it never stops. I speak from bitter experience!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulkbear Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 burning oil (like when oil is leaking into the compression housing on a turbo) is blue not white Get it to a dealer A.S.A.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentzer Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 When my Land Rover's turbo blew it kicked out enough black smoke to fill both carraigeways of the A61, and enough to cause a passer by to call the fire brigade. This makes me think its not your turbo. On the other hand, when the head gasket went on a previous car, it kicked out a bit of white smoke when accelerated hard (to start with), and by the time I'd driven it to the garage it was in a pretty bad state. Thankfully it was a heap of junk with a cast block and head (not aluminium) and so the head didn't warp due to the excessive heat. If yours is blowing any white smoke, then you need to check the oil filler cap to see if there's any tell tale sludge in there (should be black normally, may be creamy white if head is going). You also may be able to tell by looking in the expansion tank - if it's got any fluid left in it, it may have combustion gases in - there's a magic fluid you can get which changes colour if there's gases in the water. I think all VW heads are ally, so you don't want to be driving it at all - you're risking a warped head, which depending on tolerances and manufacturing process may or may not be able to be skimmed. I was lucky when the head gasket went on the replacement engine on the land rover - I had the head skimmed and it was ok. If it had been the newer TD5 engine, it would not have been able to be skimmed. Wow - that got a bit longer than I had intended - sorry. The upshot is that you probably need to get the car to the dealers on the back of a low loader. Cheers Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 [ QUOTE ] burning oil (like when oil is leaking into the compression housing on a turbo) is blue not white Get it to a dealer A.S.A.P [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure you're right about getting it to a dealer A.S.A.P but I can say for sure that when I've had turbo's give up they have always blown white smoke as far as the eye can see. I remember one time,that it blocked all three lanes of the M25 with white smoke and I couldn't see any other car behind me-very embarassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted October 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 cheers guys..it is booked in on Friday 28/10 for a new turbo. Wonder if the new one will last less than 8K too ??? The dealer tried to tell me "they all do that" ovr the phone - he thought different when he saw the amount of smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 My comment obviously wasn't too helpful in this thread - my apologies! I didn't realise you meant it was bad enough for a new turbo, hope it all gets sorted mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobby Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Rustynuts strikes again!! He came in good with the answer! Again! Star man... keep it up, you help a lot of people on here. THANKS Back to the post.....Mines got 152k on it and its still on the original turbo and everything else, did split a turbo hose a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted October 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 [ QUOTE ] My comment obviously wasn't too helpful in this thread - my apologies! I didn't realise you meant it was bad enough for a new turbo, hope it all gets sorted mate [/ QUOTE ] Don't worry - I took it how you meant it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted October 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Rustynuts strikes again!! He came in good with the answer! Again! Star man... keep it up, you help a lot of people on here. THANKS Back to the post.....Mines got 152k on it and its still on the original turbo and everything else, did split a turbo hose a while back. [/ QUOTE ] Mine is a dog - a Friday afternooner - call it whatyou will but its a pile of poo. It has had rattles x about 40 ( i'm not joking ! ), broken down twice, not started twice, 7 x airbag faults, low oil pressure warning ( inspite of being full with oil ), flat spot - solenoid valve changed (hasn't cured it), paint faults - the list goes on and on. And at a cost of more than £23K..i'm peeved abt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 [ QUOTE ] cheers guys..it is booked in on Friday 28/10 for a new turbo. [/ QUOTE ] So, it's a new turbo then is it? I thought it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I hope it is. It was booked in for a new turbo b4 the white smoke appeared - maybe i'm now getting smoke coz the turbo is dying ? Anyway, we'll see come Saurday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 [admission time] Yes, I knew it was booked in for a turbo. First thing I do when someone comes up with a problem is look at their recent posts and see what's been said for the past few days etc. It can be very errrrmm...enlightening sometimes. Sorry folks. A bit of inside information there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activa Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 [ QUOTE ] Sorry folks. A bit of inside information there. [/ QUOTE ] You cheat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_diesel Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have about a dozen diesels and white smoke is always oil... black smoke on a diesel is unburnt fuel. Where the oil is coming from is another question... Like the discussion says it's probably the turbo, otherwise it would do it almost all the time if it was the head gasket. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted October 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 [ QUOTE ] [admission time] Yes, I knew it was booked in for a turbo. First thing I do when someone comes up with a problem is look at their recent posts and see what's been said for the past few days etc. It can be very errrrmm...enlightening sometimes. Sorry folks. A bit of inside information there. [/ QUOTE ] the shock of it - booo !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustynuts Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Update on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianmkv Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 new turbo fitted 2.1/2 weeks ago. Cured the white smoke. Til the car broke down 2 days later. Grrrrrr !! So its been in VW for 6 days and came back yesterday with a new ECU and a broken dash panel. So it went back again. New ( read " replacement" ) car on order as this one is rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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