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34 Golf GTI's at motorpoint selling very slowly?

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Just wondering if anyone knows if these cars are imports? They start at £17699 which obviously is well under list. Ive been holding out for a GTI with 18's but the prices are still a bit silly and im thinking of giving in and just getting one of these. Anyone know anything about them. I think they have sold 2 in the past 2-3 weeks.

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Aren't the majority of Motorpoints cars pre-registered imports?

I bought my last car from there, that was an import.

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ive emailed them so waiting for a response. To be honest im at the point now that im not fussed if it is a euro import or pre registered as long as i get my 2 yr warranty and uk spec. I plan to keep it a good 4-5 years so at that point i doubt i would lose out to heavily value wise. Ive also emailed motorprovider as they are offering them at the same price and claim vaguely they are uk cars-fingers crossed- Pity steel grey is so rare, if i wanted diamond black, red or silver it would be plain sailing!

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Just wondering if anyone knows if these cars are imports? They start at £17699 which obviously is well under list. Ive been holding out for a GTI with 18's but the prices are still a bit silly and im thinking of giving in and just getting one of these. Anyone know anything about them. I think they have sold 2 in the past 2-3 weeks.

Thanks

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I'm not too sure what the exact current situation is with Motorpoint, but I was lead to believe that they used to get a lot of their cars from outside the EU (Cyprus & the like), so strictly speaking they weren't Pan-European and didn't have the same build spec/anti corrosion protection. Additionally, they also used to charge an extra over, over & above the purchase price quoted, from memory this was somewhere in the region of £450.

I have no knowledge as to where Motorprovider get their cars from, but if I was you I'd make damn sure I had it in writing that it was a UK car, or a Pan-European (parallel) import before I placed an order.

That said, I can personally recommend Euro Imports (http://www.euroimports.co.uk/), who source their cars direct from dealers in Denmark. Not only do they provide a first class personal service, but their cars represent a very good saving on UK list prices. For example, the typical price of a GTI 3dr, manual, in red with interlagos interior & cruise control is £17,995 OTR - no hidden extra costs whatsoever.

The other advantage with the likes of Euro Imports over Motorpoint & Motorprovider is that you can order the colour & spec of your choosing.

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Mates bought two SEAT leons off motorpoint in the past couple of years both were imports. So i expect the GTIs willbe too. They do though sell secondhand cars that are uk sourced.

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Pity steel grey is so rare, if i wanted diamond black, red or silver it would be plain sailing!

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Ahem... have you considered second hand? wink.gif169144-ok.gif

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MOre than likely to be imports IMO. Check the spec carefully too as UK cars tend to have a higher level of spec than imports - another reason for a lower price.

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UK cars tend to have a higher level of spec than imports - another reason for a lower price.

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This might have been the case many, many years ago, but this is no longer true.

I have personally bought 2 Pan-European cars in the last 3 years and they have both been absolutely indentical in spec to their respective, but considerably more expensive UK counter parts.

In fact in some cases, specs on European cars can exceed those of UK cars. For instance I have been lead to believe that all Danish MkV GTIs come with cruise control as standard.

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I did notice one of the Leons my mate bought from them came with different alloys to the UK car and was very slight different spec. It was actually a little higher speced than the uk spec version was.

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i rang motorprovider on christmas eve and the sales guys were gone but the guy on the phone said call back on the 28th but all the GTIs are Uk cars. So if i can get a 3dr with 18's for 18k then i think im just going to go for it. Ive been waiting since october to pick up a used one for around 17K (as all the car guides are telling me that 6 month examples are worth between 16-17k) but its not happening. All i can see is that the vw has had the same cars forsale for 3 months and althought the prices have reduced dramatically, they are still more than they are worth and critically, more expensive than these supermarket cars are selling for. Even if they are parallel imports, all i lose is a yrs warranty (£200) and possibly a reduced trade in (although doubt it will make much difference when i trade/sell at 4yrs old).

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i rang motorprovider on christmas eve and the sales guys were gone but the guy on the phone said call back on the 28th but all the GTIs are Uk cars. So if i can get a 3dr with 18's for 18k then i think im just going to go for it. Ive been waiting since october to pick up a used one for around 17K (as all the car guides are telling me that 6 month examples are worth between 16-17k) but its not happening. All i can see is that the vw has had the same cars forsale for 3 months and althought the prices have reduced dramatically, they are still more than they are worth and critically, more expensive than these supermarket cars are selling for. Even if they are parallel imports, all i lose is a yrs warranty (£200) and possibly a reduced trade in (although doubt it will make much difference when i trade/sell at 4yrs old).

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As I said before, make sure you get it in writing (do just take their word for it) that is either a UK car, a Pan-European or a parallel import (sourced from an EU country - i.e. not a grey import), before you place your order. Otherwise the VW dealer network will be very unwilling to help you should anything go wrong, plus insurance can become another issue that is more expensive to arrange.

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Yeh- 'UK car' is a very broad term.

Personally I would take everything a car supermarket tells you with a pinch of salt, and don't go by 'the guides' for what GTI's are worth.

VW will sell cars for what they can get away with. Try getting a dealer to give you 'book' money come trade in (it never happens) or try buying a car for 'book' money at a dealer (it never happens)

Those guides are nothing more than a way for a dealer to bend you over and 123576-assfeck.gif at every opportunity. If you can buy cheap 169144-ok.gif go for it, but expect to lose out a little come selling time!

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My previous posting should have read "don't just take their word for it"

One more point, ask yourself this very simple question;

If the UK VW dealer network can sell every single GTI allocated to them (in most cases they're currently quoting waiting lists of between 3 & 9 months - depending on spec), why would VW UK sell cars at knock down prices to Motorprovider et-al & lose thousands of £ on each car?

The Motorprovider site uses the phrase "UK Registered", this does not mean it is a genuine UK car, any import will become UK registered. The critical thing is that Section 3 on the V5 states "Declared new at first registration" & Section 4 B & B.1 tally with the date you actually purchase the car.

You can undoubtedly find some very good savings on some genuine UK cars, but these tend to be models that are far less sought after & are readily available from stock.

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UK dealer supplied car.

Another point i was thinking if there pre registered cars ask for a look at the service book the PDI Delivery inspection part should have been stamped and signed by a UK VW dealer if i was paying this sorts of cash i would also phone the dealer (The numbers prob in the stamp but also check its a real dealer not someones house etc on VW.co.uk) with the cars details to check its a genuine stamp and signature too that was PDI 'ed by them.

Keep me posted on how you get on please as we are looking for another GTI but price is a concern too.

Thanks

Geoff.

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What makes me think there imports is this statment at the bottom of there website

All prices exclude Road Fund Licence and a First Registration Fee of £38 where applicable. Vehicles are supplied with balance of manufacturers warranty where available. Vehicles may not be to UK spec. You may not be the first registered keeper. An optional preparation service is available for an additional £62.13. Pictures are for illustration purposes only.

Under FAQ

How can Motorpoint offer such big discounts?

Motorpoint operates independently from official dealerships and can therefore bypass the systems that inflate UK vehicle prices. As we are a supermarket, we sell a large volume of cars at lower prices rather than a smaller number of cars at higher prices.

Under terms and conditions.

General...

Motorpoint specialise in the sale of imported vehicles, The specification of a vehicle may be different to that of other similar vehicles available in the UK.

The UK registration date is not necessarily connected to the date of manufacture. You may not be the first registered keeper of the vehicle.

The vehicles will be supplied with the balance of the manufacturer's warranty where available.

Motorpoint will pass to you all keys, manuals, service records and radio codes received.

All vehicle images used on Motorpoint press advertisments, websites or via web portals such as Autotrader are for illustrative purposes.

Title...

The vehicle does not become the customer's until it is paid for with cleared funds.

Vehicle Information...

Vehicles may be imported and therefore the specification may differ from UK specifications. All new vehicles are right-hand drive, display speeds in mph and built to a European specification which conforms to UK standards. New vehicles are unregistered while on display, however you may not be the 1st registered keeper. Any new car prices quoted are the unregistered prices and are plus £38 registration fee and road fund licence at the current rate. All savings shown are against UK List Prices. Vehicles advertised are from group stock and change daily. All printed prices are correct at time of press. E&OE.

If these are actual UK VW franchise dealer supplied cars (afterall fleet buying discount could be the reason for the price) i know we are very extremely interested in one of the basic 5 doors but im a bit suspicious that there imports as they all seem to be listed with cruise control fitted.

I would also be interested to know were of the places they have they have them stored at is it Derby, Burnley, Glasgow or Newport.

I wonder.

Geoff.

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I got my GTI in Sept, 5 door, £19400 DSG Met black, winter pack, armrest, Cruise, I think the car came from Belgium.

I wanted a car on the spot, Motor provider did the Job. I bought the extra years RAC.

In two years I will look again.

The Car would have listed around £23 from VW. More INFO in previous posts

Cheers

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The Car would have listed around £23 from VW.

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sounds like a bargain! grin.gif

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i rang motorprovider on christmas eve and the sales guys were gone but the guy on the phone said call back on the 28th but all the GTIs are Uk cars. So if i can get a 3dr with 18's for 18k then i think im just going to go for it. Ive been waiting since october to pick up a used one for around 17K (as all the car guides are telling me that 6 month examples are worth between 16-17k) but its not happening. All i can see is that the vw has had the same cars forsale for 3 months and althought the prices have reduced dramatically, they are still more than they are worth and critically, more expensive than these supermarket cars are selling for. Even if they are parallel imports, all i lose is a yrs warranty (£200) and possibly a reduced trade in (although doubt it will make much difference when i trade/sell at 4yrs old).

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Just re-read the complete thread again.

I just noticed in this post you are talking about Motorprovider rather than motorpoint. smile.gif

Let me know what you find out.

Thanks

Geoff.

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yea i mentioned both as they had them at the same price. Im going to give them a call tomorrow so i will let u know what specs and prices they have

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right, finally got round to calling motorprovider. The cars are imports from Germany with 2yr warranty and uk spec. They have loads in stock with stock arriving weekly. The car i wanted in metallic ******(just in case someone else buys the one i want) with 18's and centre armrest is £18,595 OTR with me as 1st registered owner for march 1st on an 06 plate.

When talking about part ex he said "we aren't afraid to tell a customer what a car is worth", oh dear they dont give much then.

Well im on holiday from fri so will no doubt spend next week looking around for one, seems like a good deal though, what do u think?

Cheers

Ryan

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TBH, if they give you book money, that isn't bad.

I have always struggled to get book money for nearly new cars.

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