stevie_d Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 [ QUOTE ] not only does DSG flatter the driver [/ QUOTE ] Damnit, I thought it was the cute girl in the carpark who said "nice arse" when I got into my car this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhibbin Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Thanks Robin I've not tried S mode at all yet as still running in. On the paddles going 5-4-3 there is a definate lag between 5 and 4. I just thought this was normal since the box had 6th engaged and I surprised it with a downshift whilst light throttle was still applied at 30. Its not massive but not instant either. Do I have a fault or do others recognise the slight pause in situations like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I would explore this further before deciding if a 'fault' or not. Also, don't forget that the car is probably still learning your driving style. My Milltek Turbo-back significantly improves throttle response so perhaps throttle response may also be a factor. Others will doubtless know more than myself about this. I can only say that I've never been conscious of any lag in gear shifting. I've got a nice long drive tomorrow so I'll consciously check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evosapper Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Hibbsy, The car as far as I am aware has an adaptive "memory" and will therefore soon adjust to your style of driving.... There is certainly a pause in light throttle shifts possibly to protect the drivetrain and keep them as smooth as possible when in the urban environment. Don't worry once the boring run in miles are complete and you begin to mash the long pedal the speed of the shift is about as rapid as you will get in a non supercar...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhibbin Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Thanks guys, panic over ... comming upto 600 miles now, run in nearly done ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 CMC950 - I would imagine because that is the way that automatic boxes have been built for years - with either a drive and sport mode, or a winter and summer mode - pretty much the same but with different labelling, depending on the underlying performance and ability of the vehicle/engine combination. To do differently would make it very different to what most people would expect in an "auto" - and it is in the 1.9 TDI and 2.0 TDI diesels that DSG is making its huge number of sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Little tip, When in M, If you want the DSG to pre select a downgear. Floor the throttle a second or so before you down shift. That tells the ECU that lots more power is needed and the second clutch pre-selects the lower gear not the higher gear. Works for me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_d Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Leman> that's a brilliant idea mate, I'll try it next time as downchanges can be a bit slow sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhibbin Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Sounds like that will fix my downshift issue thanks LeMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGTi Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 LeMan...thanks for that tip....looks like the best method to avoid that slight hesitation (see the last question on the attached FAQ on DSG in the linky below) linky to DSG FAQ I like the answer to Q15 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markallain Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Do the UK spec GTI's and R32's come with with the hill assist function. There is another thread on the A3 which seems to say it is an option on the Audi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Nope - an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markallain Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I can't see any mention of this option in the UK brochure. NHS does your car have this and did you pay extra for it? And have you tried it out anyway even if you have not got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 The Hill start assistant is standard on the Mk5 GTI. See handbook booklet 3.1 page 104. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_d Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The Hill start assistant is standard on the Mk5 GTI. See handbook booklet 3.1 page 104. [/ QUOTE ] It is? Oh, what does it do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Not in my car it's not..... In my GTI manual (MY06 print status 10.2005) it's on page 109 and it stays "Applies to: vehicles with hill start assistant" - its not in my GTI! I've used this on the new Passat - basically when stopped, rather than having a manual pull up handbrake, you pull up a little lever that illuminates. This stops you rolling back on a hill. Rather than letting the handbrake off, you simply "drive off" and it automatically lets itself off once you are moving forwards. Great for driving tests, not much good for handbrake turns..... When ordering my GTI it appeared to be an option for European Golfs (as were the drawers under the leather seats etc) ..... it is not an option for the GTI from VW UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGTi Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] The Hill start assistant is standard on the Mk5 GTI. See handbook booklet 3.1 page 104. [/ QUOTE ] Page 109 in my handbook Red My drive is pretty steep ( > 5% ) so I guess I use the Hill start assistant everyday without really knowing it. Basically I have noticed that the car cannot be rushed into moving off quickly....on selecting a gear (from the P position) and relasing the footbrake, it seems to take a second or two to find enough revs & creep forward....so I guess that is the Hill Start Assistant working. There is also a Caution advised on p104 of my handbook that I was'nt aware of. It warns : "Do not attempt to stop the car from rolling by depressing the accelerator when a gear has been selected. The DSG could overheat and be damaged. Pull the handbrake on fully or depress the brake pedal to prevent the vehicle from rolling away" I must admit that in my last car with a Tiptronic box I used to hold the car on a steep approach to a set of traffic lights by pressing the accelerator slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGTi Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] you pull up a little lever that illuminates. This stops you rolling back [/ QUOTE ] No mention of this lever in the GTi handbook in the Hill Start section though...it just says it will be held in position and the brake gradually released ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Maybe it's different altogether - the Hill Start Assistant in the Passat works for both manuals and DSGs. It's not clear on p109 how the Hill start would work for the GTI I suspect its time to revisit the Stealership and have another look at how it works in the Passat - I can't recall if the gizmo is the handbrake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markallain Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I'm still none the wiser as to what happens if you stop on a hill with your cars and leave the brake off - will it roll back straight away or only after 5 secs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoSheds Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 My GTI(DSG)2006 has Hill start assist & has always performed as described in the manual from stationary on 5%+ inclines. The Passat has an electronic parking brake ( with the hill hold function on auto versions. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Thanks for clarifying this TwoSheds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markallain Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Cheers Two Sheds So it seems that hill hold function is standard on UK GTI cars. But for some reason on particular Audis this was an option which had to be paid for. Think it also might have been an option for GTI's in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoSheds Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I'm still none the wiser as to what happens if you stop on a hill with your cars and leave the brake off - will it roll back straight away or only after 5 secs? [/ QUOTE ] As you release the foot brake the 'assist' holds the car for approx. 2 secs whilst you start to use the throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 It works on my DSG '06 spec GTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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