mixit Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Found my pics ! Ran it for 2 years before it was stolen Loved the handling ) The Mk5 is probably closer to the Mk2 Handling wise IMO. I'm now digging for pics of my Scirroco Mk1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Mixit i may as well join in as well then lol I know mine is incorrect in this pic in a few places (no side stripes and a silver VW badge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixit Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I know mine is incorrect in this pic in a few places (no side stripes and a silver VW badge) [/ QUOTE ] Plus the remains of a sticker on the bonnet. Looks like it used to belong to an estate agent Nice one snoop Speshlee the "P" wheels mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 [ QUOTE ] For a Golf 1.8 GTI Mk1 campaign in October 1983 Basic=£5578 Car Tax=464.83 VAT=£906.42 Total=£6949.25 using http://eh.net/hmit/ppowerbp/ For year 2005 that would be a total of £15,702.46 If only the new golf GTI anny was that sort of price [/ QUOTE ] But not far off a polo GTI though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 True but i still look at the mk1 as a golf size for the reason its competition at the time was the length the mk5 is now, Same with the mk2 golf the escort of the time was much longer not far off todays golf iirc, again with the mk3 golf it was short compared to rivals, Its only with the mk4 & 5 that VW increased the exterior length of the golf to its rivals. VWs brand image has changed so much since then too so they ask for a premium for there product now unlike with the mk1 for example the RS escort was acutally more expensive by £53 because it had the image and later on the mk3 XR3 was only a little cheaper than the GTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 But with equipment levels and quality of build, it's not to bad TBH. What does a 1.8 golf cost basic, or even a 2.0FSI. Todays GTI is comparable IMO to the Quattro Turbo of yesteryear. If you factor in exclusivity, BHP and performance there wouldn't be much in it. I bet that comes in at around 20+k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 wow thats a very spooky coincidence you mension the ur-quattro i was offered only last night a fully restored D-plate and even have the sales broucher from that year too when i looked this morning. The Audi was mega mega bucks compared to its rivals at the time. I cannot see the mk5 GTI getting the following the Audi had though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonl Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I cannot see the mk5 GTI getting the following the Audi had though. [/ QUOTE ] no i agree, it was more mechanical like for like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 I know were your coming from but when i look at other cars in the VAG range that use similar units like the A3 2.0T, octavia 2.0T vRS, Leon 2.0T FR . To me and i stress me the Golf GTI does look a little pricey. There selling it imo at a premium for the VW badge + an extra premium for the GTI badge. But thats just my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswastle Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 That mk1 is gorgeous, surely as someone on here said a car like that is worth what someone is going to pay, i am seriously looking at buying one next summer just for weekend and shows and would love the oportunity to buy something like that. Surely a price tag of 5K would be realistic? i sold my mk1 cab to fund the mk5 worst thing i ever did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I know were your coming from but when i look at other cars in the VAG range that use similar units like the A3 2.0T, octavia 2.0T vRS, Leon 2.0T FR . To me and i stress me the Golf GTI does look a little pricey. There selling it imo at a premium for the VW badge + an extra premium for the GTI badge. But thats just my view. [/ QUOTE ] I would agree with that...but I got hooked on them and just had to buy one in the end. The more I follow this thread the more I want a MK1 as well.....getting greedy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameo Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 At the risk of upsetting the Mk1 fans I have to say that when I owned one 12 years or so ago I was really disappointed. It was noisey, frantic on dual carriageways and not particularly quick- and the ventilation was I should add that it was my only car and it may well be differant as a weekend car. Prior to it amongst other cars I had was a Renault 5 Gordini Turbo and a MkII 8 valve (which I sold to get the MkI) which were both better cars IMHO. If I were to get a "classic" Golf GTi for the weekend it would be a MkII 16 valve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=76440 The prep of that car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted August 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Cheers, Geoff So much better than that 'Pimp my ride' TV crap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 [ QUOTE ] If I were to get a "classic" Golf GTi for the weekend it would be a MkII 16 valve [/ QUOTE ] I sold this one four years ago, loved the car, but had no space to keep it. I never had to do anything to it in 147000 miles apart from the usual wear and tear items. One complete exhaust, two sets of shocks but still had the original clutch. Mind you the brakes were rubbish, like putting your foot on a stiff sponge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Of the mk2s i liked the runout 8V of late 91 early 92 that got the 15" BBSs and interior of the 16V myself over the 16v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Ive had a couple of MkI's- one a GLI convertible and the other a GTI convertible, not that I like convertibles, they were cheap trade in's that I re-sprayed, drove for a couple of thousand miles and sold on - Sh1t brakes if I remember. My favourite car was a 1986 GTI 16v, one of the first16v models out, with 1/4 light front windows - D92GSP - Does anyone know if its still around, gunmetal grey will 14" 5 spoke ronals. I always wanted to put a big bumper kit on it though. I think I owned this car in approx 1992/3 and loved it, I sold it with approx 80,000 miles, so only just run in!!!! Going back to the MK1's can you see where I got my black badges from, they looked so good on these cars, really making the GTI badge stand out, and Ive tried to follow the theme on my MKV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Just a note the mk1s always got a bad rep later on for bad brakes but if you read the original car reviews there were never critised. They are not as overservoed as modern cars (helps with the feel) but if the back drum brakes are kept to 100% then the brakes are not a problem, This point is why 99% of mk1s are always critised for there brakes. The rear drum brakes are critical to how the brakes perform, Anyone that has driven a modern VW with drum rear brakes ie SEAT Ibiza 1.2/1.4 or VW Polo's were the brakes have not been seviced recent will often have brakes like the mk1 is always talked about having, as the modern VWs also suffer the silly wedge adjustment that does not always adjust and its why a rear brake inspection & adjust is normally carried out each year on models with the rear drums even though its not in the service book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsy Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 I recall on my old Mk 1, GTi Engeneering modified the mechanism so there was less pedal travel in addition to using high performance Mintex front pads. I never had any complaints about the modified setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 I have many good memories of my 1984 MK1 GTI, and the brakes wern't that good and faded really badly until I fitted Mintex M171 pads which were an improvement but noisy. To be fair it always stopped when it needed to, although I thought the primary cause of the problem was the linkage from the pedal to the servo. At least it had a servo, I remember driving a Polo of the same era (hearse shape) and it didn't have a servo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindaloo Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 At the time I bought my MK1 in 1983 I seem to remember a bit in the auto press on the reason for the poor brakes. It was I think the need to move the servo to accommodate Right Hand Drive with the consequent re-routing and lengthening of brake pipes. Could be BS but I defintely remeber reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] At the time I bought my MK1 in 1983 I seem to remember a bit in the auto press on the reason for the poor brakes. It was I think the need to move the servo to accommodate Right Hand Drive with the consequent re-routing and lengthening of brake pipes. Could be BS but I defintely remeber reading it. [/ QUOTE ] Yes and the fact the linkage had to go from left to right, rings a bell with me also. I think a lot of the feel was lost in the linkage. Mind you I was only ten years old then, but a full on petrol head Oh and vindaloo your R32 looks stunning in grey, have you got leather or cloth, and if its cloth have you got any interior pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] At the time I bought my MK1 in 1983 I seem to remember a bit in the auto press on the reason for the poor brakes. It was I think the need to move the servo to accommodate Right Hand Drive with the consequent re-routing and lengthening of brake pipes. Could be BS but I defintely remeber reading it. [/ QUOTE ] Trust me i have EVERY review of the mk1 from launch to the end in 1984 the brake 'problem' only ever rose its head later on when the cars were older. As i said try a late VW that has rear drum brakes thathas not had a service resent. The pedal travel + feel is exact what the mk1s are, Look after the rear brakes they make a significant difference to what the brakes are like, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Never trust a man that says TRUST ME!! Ha HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 [ QUOTE ] I have many good memories of my 1984 MK1 GTI, and the brakes wern't that good and faded really badly until I fitted Mintex M171 pads which were an improvement but noisy. To be fair it always stopped when it needed to, although I thought the primary cause of the problem was the linkage from the pedal to the servo. At least it had a servo, I remember driving a Polo of the same era (hearse shape) and it didn't have a servo. [/ QUOTE ] I have had my mk1 for many years and got it just before i was 18 so you can guess how it got driven in the early years. The pads are critical for some reason i tried loads of different makes and specs, best ones by a HUGE margin were VWs OWN OEM for the GTI original equipement and spec anything else the car felt like it would never stop. I bought a huge amount of old stock from vw due to this. Aftermarket or replacment bads don't work or i should say didn't work. Newer materials maybe better now. Its another one of those reason why the car got its brake rep AFTER it was new and it never cropped up in original reviews. FADE i can say from well over 100+ to 0 no fade we had a 1.5 mile private road (yes it was private) we use to sort of drag on and i use to do many runs on said road you had to brake hard at the end or end up in a field ) and no problem infact at the time early 90s the cars everyone else had, had problems i never did on oem pads. (unlike the mk5 that does not like it either) The feel and the pedal travel is 90% rear brakes and there adjustment the myth is its the linkage every mag now says it, but its not sometimes the linkage needs new pins so has an inch of play at the top of the pedal at most (its easy felt if its the linkage by wiggling the pedal) but 90% of the time its the rear brakes as i have said new VWs still suffer it after been a few years old. As for servo its something i have never really found a problem, infact some cars i prefer without as it gives you more feel especially if the car does not have ABS, so you have to press it a bit harder i don't find that a problem myself especially in these time of some cars with there over servo'ed brakes especially Audis i adjust with each car very quickly. Maybe its because i use to be in and out of loads of different cars a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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