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A Surrey Police volvo estate followed me the majority of my way through Guildford and onto the A3 this afternoon. 3 drivers (2 cars and a lorry) passed us in the opposite direction with their drivers clearly using their mobiles. The policemen didnt seem to care.

Is it not considered a bad thing anymore?

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Symptomatic of this governments knee jerk reactions to law making.. it's ok making laws if you can enforce them.

If the Police were to stop everyone talking on a mobile phone then they would do nothing else.

i agree though.. we need better education like the drink driving campaigns. 169144-ok.gif

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What Dave said. They could have been on a pro-active team, who aren't interested in general traffic stuff, or they could have been following someone, or they could have been on the way to get their chinese!

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Did you see the Police Action prog on BBC one the other week. The traffic cop in question had a pet hate of mobiles and lack of seatbelts so always pulled people up. In the middle of the programme he pulled a Merc ML for this and found kg's of drugs in it.

He said that this type of thing often happens (although not huge amounts of drugs just other criminal activity).

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I suppose some Police want to see if the mobile driver is in control of the vehicle???

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I wish that the police would pull more people for using their mobiles while driving. The number of times I've had to honk at another driver drifting while I'm overtaking to then see them on a mobile.

The other pet hate is middle lane hoggers - Some of them don't even get the message when you come up behind, flash several times, overtake, and then go to the far left lane yourself.....Duh!!!

Up the M40 on Saturday morning and both righthand lanes were very very full but the far lefthand lane was empty literally as far into the distance as you could see!

Education via a TV campaign would surely help!?

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Problem is, when they are going the other way, it's not always easy to spin round and go after them to stop them. And you could obviously not 'make progress' through traffic just to catch someone using a mobile. It's a case of practical policing I am afraid. Plus, if you're on the way to a job, you might not be in a position to make stops.

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Up the M40 on Saturday morning and both righthand lanes were very very full but the far lefthand lane was empty literally as far into the distance as you could see!

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Yep know what you mean RR. I have driven up the left lane at 70 mph undertaking those in the righthand lanes. They were all doing 50-60 in places, with the left hand empty. For miles!!!!

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I agree that these idiots who clog up the middle lane should be dealt with; it's just a case of catching them, and with fewer traffic officers on motorways they are getting away with it.

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Problem is, when they are going the other way, it's not always easy to spin round and go after them to stop them.

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Is there also an issue of how long you get to clock them when they go past in the opposite direction? If you see somebody on a mobile, turn round and catch up with them a few minutes later, can't they just say they were scratching their ear or something? Is your word against theirs enough? What if there's two of you? What if there's one of you and two of them with the same story? Inquisitive minds need to know! grin.gif

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Up the M40 on Saturday morning and both righthand lanes were very very full but the far lefthand lane was empty literally as far into the distance as you could see!

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Yep know what you mean RR. I have driven up the left lane at 70 mph undertaking those in the righthand lanes. They were all doing 50-60 in places, with the left hand empty. For miles!!!!

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This has cropped up before.

Two points to make.

First. If you pass on the inside you are breaking the law. Plus, if someone moves in on you without checking (or even deliberately as they're narked that you're passing them on the inside) and a resulting accident will be considered your fault. Given that the texting lorry driver who killed two people went to jail, do you want to risk it?

Second. I certainly do not condone using lanes two and three when lane one is empty, but you've only got to move into lane one, not make any progress cos you can't go faster, and then when you come up behind a truck find that the guy behind you in L2 has moved up into your spot and you're trapped in L1 uselessly indicating right as everyone steams past a few times before you think "sod this" and stay in L2 from then on.

As well as lane discipline you also need more give and take from other drivers and the General Public is just too selfish and unaware of anything not directly connected to them to care.

But I totally agree, it is bloody annoying.

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First. If you pass on the inside you are breaking the law

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Is it?

I am not speeding, and the other cars are 'flowing, braking, slowing' at 60mph in traffic. Must be a grey area???

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Problem is, when they are going the other way, it's not always easy to spin round and go after them to stop them.

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Is there also an issue of how long you get to clock them when they go past in the opposite direction? If you see somebody on a mobile, turn round and catch up with them a few minutes later, can't they just say they were scratching their ear or something? Is your word against theirs enough? What if there's two of you? What if there's one of you and two of them with the same story? Inquisitive minds need to know! grin.gif

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A fair question, but one with a pretty obvious answer. It is their word against yours, otherwise everyone would get away with everything !

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Is it?

I am not speeding, and the other cars are 'flowing, braking, slowing' at 60mph in traffic. Must be a grey area???

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Not really. Re overtaking on the left, the highway code says

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# only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so

# stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left

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Strictly speaking 60mph is not a queue wink.gif

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First. If you pass on the inside you are breaking the law

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Is it?

I am not speeding, and the other cars are 'flowing, braking, slowing' at 60mph in traffic. Must be a grey area???

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Agree it is a grey area, but then again, the highway code states you may pass on the inside ONLY if the traffic is moving slowly and in queues (IIRC).

Doing what you describe could be careless driving.

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242: Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake . In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

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Good luck arguing that you weren't overtaking on the left, you were just going with the traffic flow! 169144-ok.gif

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I was coming onto the A19 last week, and everyone bunched up into the right lane to overtake a van that was going rather slow. I saw a jag in lane 1 absolutely floor it, in an effort to undertake the 12 or so cars in the right lane. As there was a 'safe gap' to pull in, I indicated and drifted into lane 1. I've never seen a bonnet drop so fast. he must have totally slammed his anchors on. Needless to say, he backed off, and decided to stay behind me for the duration of the road!

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In the summer I saw a very "near miss" when a (presumably trophy) blonde driving a Rangey whilst on the phone came straight out of a side turning and nearly t-boned another woman who was driving past (but wasn't on the phone). The Rangey stopped millimetres from the other car's drivers door and the blonde started gobbing off at the woman she had nearly hit whilst continuing her phone call and probably telling the person at the other end of the line how stupid the innocent motorist was!

At times I wish I were a traffic copper so I could really spoil that idiot Rangey driver's day....

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At times I wish I were a traffic copper so I could really spoil that idiot Rangey driver's day....

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....I'm so relieved to learn that I'm not the only one who sometimes wishes they could arrest a motorist! That 'trophy blonde' would have been in my custody quicker than she could say "Handcuffs!" grin.gif

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I was coming onto the A19 last week, and everyone bunched up into the right lane to overtake a van that was going rather slow. I saw a jag in lane 1 absolutely floor it, in an effort to undertake the 12 or so cars in the right lane. As there was a 'safe gap' to pull in, I indicated and drifted into lane 1. I've never seen a bonnet drop so fast. he must have totally slammed his anchors on. Needless to say, he backed off, and decided to stay behind me for the duration of the road!

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See, that's the thing though, why are 12 cars queued up on the outside lane to overtake anyway? And how many of them then moved into the left lane after overtaking?

Probably not many.

If I had sat behind 12 cars for a mile or so and no progress was being made I would be inclined to do the same thing as the Jag as technically the 12 cars on the outside are not overtaking anything and that is what the outside lane is for.

It doesn't mean I'd boot it up the inside and then dive out, I drive up the inside up to a safe distance behind the lorry for example. I then indicate and if allowed, move out. Not my fault that the divs on the outside lane have no lane discipline in the first place and then let me join the outside lane which is often common.

And I have argued this with a police officer to the point he agreed because I was not breaking the speed limit whilst travelling up the left lane and I was not driving inconsiderately.

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Couldnt agree more. Passed what seemed like half a dozen drivers today chatting away on the hand held phone. Surely if the police forces are interested in increasing there 'funds' then this would make them a bomb!

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Fog lights, front and rear should be banned and they get right on my t*ts tongue.gif but feckers on the phone deserve everything they get. It's only about £10 for a cheap hands free kit these days, but, like Dave says, if they stopped everyone who was using a handheld, they'd never get anything done.

Maybe some shock tactics, like a massively publicised court case about someone using a handheld would be a start.

On a similar subject, why are police allowed to use their radio (which is handheld) while they're driving. Surely this is dangerous as well...?

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On a similar subject, why are police allowed to use their radio (which is handheld) while they're driving. Surely this is dangerous as well...?

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I'm not sure police drivers do anymore (except on The Bill perhaps), isn't it all in car hands free these days?

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Not when I was watching a programme on CH4 the other day, which was about a traffic officer in Hants who is renowned for giving out the most tickets of anyone. He hates people using handhelds and books absolutely everyone he sees doing it, but, as the camera was pointed at him in the car, he was flying round a roundabout while he was taking on his radio at the same time, clipped to his shoulder... confused.gif

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