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I can't see them selling that many. The original Skyline GTR was a bit of a sales dud. They reckon the list price will be somewhere about the £60,000 mark which puts it out of reach to most current GTR and 350Z owners looking to upgrade. £60k is Porsche money and too many people have a problem with the Nissan badge to switch. Which is a shame beacuse after reading the spec. if I had £60k lying about I'd put my name on the list!

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It'll be a 'specialist' purchase, that's for sure. Probably sold exclusively through Middlehurst again too. (So at least he'll be ready with lots of tempting upgrades). I think they sold 100 R34 Skylines as 'official' UK cars. Basic list was £40k I think, but most opted to upgrade, and realistically anyone who bought a new R34 could have afforded a 911 instead. When you're talking such low numbers, the badge thing isn't an issue - they'll already be Jap/Nissan enthusiasts.

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Well it looks intresting. I wouldnt buy that car new though. Fear teh depreciation of an expensive Nissan! crazy.gif

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Well it looks intresting. I wouldnt buy that car new though. Fear teh depreciation of an expensive Nissan! crazy.gif

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The 350Z hasn't done too bad. Not really the same thing though...

Maybe a better comparison would be the NSX. Another case of a Japanese company aiming outside their normal target audience. That said, the Skyline already has a following.

I don't think anyone that is in the market for a 911 would consider much else, so the fact it'd be a similar price is pretty much irrelevant. Same sort of situation with expensive BMWs, the AMV8 and the Z06; if you're considering one, you're not likely to be attracted by the others. By this stage, I say most potential owners will have firmly nailed their colours to the mast of one brand or the other. That said, there's bound to be exceptions...

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Well it looks intresting. I wouldnt buy that car new though. Fear teh depreciation of an expensive Nissan! crazy.gif

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The 350Z hasn't done too bad. Not really the same thing though...

Maybe a better comparison would be the NSX. Another case of a Japanese company aiming outside their normal target audience. That said, the Skyline already has a following.

I don't think anyone that is in the market for a 911 would consider much else, so the fact it'd be a similar price is pretty much irrelevant. Same sort of situation with expensive BMWs, the AMV8 and the Z06; if you're considering one, you're not likely to be attracted by the others. By this stage, I say most potential owners will have firmly nailed their colours to the mast of one brand or the other. That said, there's bound to be exceptions...

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Not me. Ill test drive anything fast enough with air con, sat nav etc thats in my price box. I hold no brand loyalty! FIREdevil.gif

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Not me. Ill test drive anything fast enough with air con, sat nav etc thats in my price box. I hold no brand loyalty! FIREdevil.gif

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Yes, but if not brand loyalty, you may well have a preference in other areas. If you happen to like, for example, the Mitsubishi Evo you may not like the Vauxhall Monaro. Both very quick, but they achieve it in different ways. They may be similar in size and price, but that's where the similarities end smile.gif

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Very true, but in that respect the Evo is faster, lighter and more chuckable. So that would be the quick choice out the 2. Your right, one can quickly eliminate a few from each price band. However they all have similarities.

The cars I fancy next are:

Next gen CSL

997 GT3 (2nd hand)

Skyline

or what I have ben thinking recently:

Stick a supercharger in the CSL and possibly get something else as well. (in a dream world!) 169144-ok.gif

So all are a much of a much ness. Low weight. Performance is paramount + the luxuries. 169144-ok.gif

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Very true, but in that respect the Evo is faster, lighter and more chuckable. So that would be the quick choice out the 2.

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And yet I'd never go for an Evo. There's so much I don't like about them. All down to personal preference 169144-ok.gif

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Very true, but in that respect the Evo is faster, lighter and more chuckable. So that would be the quick choice out the 2.

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And yet I'd never go for an Evo. There's so much I don't like about them. All down to personal preference 169144-ok.gif

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I wouldnt either. But id still have one over a Monaro as I think id have more fun with it. For me its drive first. Image, and drand a very firm number 2.

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Well done on the first post of 2007 sayerbloke wink.gif

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I think I got 1st post last year too... but then I was one of those aiming for it that time 169144-ok.gif

Maybe I should go back and edit that post to make it more interesting... grin.gif

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Very true, but in that respect the Evo is faster, lighter and more chuckable. So that would be the quick choice out the 2.

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And yet I'd never go for an Evo. There's so much I don't like about them. All down to personal preference 169144-ok.gif

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I wouldnt either. But id still have one over a Monaro as I think id have more fun with it. For me its drive first. Image, and drand a very firm number 2.

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The problem is I just get the impression with things like the Evo that it's been built soley to get around a corner as fast as mechanically possible. There's more to driving fun than that.

I prefer Imprezas to Evos anyway, but neither are really... me.

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Very true, but in that respect the Evo is faster, lighter and more chuckable. So that would be the quick choice out the 2.

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And yet I'd never go for an Evo. There's so much I don't like about them. All down to personal preference 169144-ok.gif

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I wouldnt either. But id still have one over a Monaro as I think id have more fun with it. For me its drive first. Image, and drand a very firm number 2.

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The problem is I just get the impression with things like the Evo that it's been built solely to get around a corner as fast as mechanically possible. There's more to driving fun than that.

I prefer Imprezas to Evos anyway, but neither are really... me.

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Have you driven one? They are very hard to diss when you are behind the wheel! jump.gif

Besides stick a good sat nav and stereo in it and who needs more. Just get used to lift of fun and catapulting out of roundabouts! 169144-ok.gif

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Have you driven one? They are very hard to diss when you are behind the wheel! jump.gif

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I've driven a Scooby WRX at Bruntingthorpe. Nice car. There was an Evo there at the sime time, but I don't think it'd been very well looked after. It didn't seem to want to go around corners. I think the diff was completely screwed up... it was making some very strange sounds as it was crawling slowly around the paddock!

Not for me 169144-ok.gif

The Skyline is a slightly different ballgame though. The R34 GTR is a seriously cool piece of kit! There are probably cars I'd rather have for the money, but if someone gave me one, I wouldn't be in a desperate hurry to sell it on to get something else grin.gif

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If this is true I cant help being massivly impressed with this car. apparently laps the rin as fast as the new GT2, or faster than the CGT...

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From the GTROC:

Another video with sound.

Engine still unknown, but definately did not sound like a V8 - too quiet, too.

Redline at 8000rpm

Paddle shift, either six or seven speed

Rumours of three derivations initially not confirmed, but there will be different versions over time

New 'Super MFD' - advanced controls relating to the set up of car

Wheel sizes unknown - thought we could read from pics but they appear 20"

Has apparently been designed to be driven to the shops but without compromising it's on-road capability.

More testing at the ring later this year and summer testing in arizona desert

Japan and USA first for deliveries

Europe will have it before July 2008

Two main markets for Europe: Germany and UK

Over 40 people in the UK have put depsoits down already (inc 1 premiership footballer)

Official dealers in the UK - up to five, will be announced VERY soon.

GTROC will be taking £1k fully refundable depsoits on behalf of the dealers as soon as we can agree T&Cs and get it in the shop

Price itro £55k

Official unvieling at the Tokyo motor show this year.

This car is the new grey, there is a new silver coming out, bayside blue may be dropped as a colour

The test driver was a French VP of Nissan and he thinks it will be a smash hit

Test driver commentted that Porsche have a lot to be worried about

It has been top speed tested in Germany at 180mph and was - "very stable"

Other test drivers have desrcibed it as "frighteningly quick" and "very smooth" certainly from the way it pulled away it was effortless.

Interesting clutch arrangement meant it had trouble staying stationary in gear (or maybe that was an issue not yet ironed out)

The Chief Designer said it will be difficult to modify a lot because it is very complex

They want to keep the front secet and it was suggested that what was underneath the camogflague was not the finished article anyway

The information was on the goodwood website but was removed later

The GTROC was asked to be discrete about the new car prior to it being shown but now it has had its forst public showing it is fine to puiblish details and photographs

Option magazine came to Goodwood on speculation, having heard a rumour. The GTROC was on hand to tell them where it was and the route is was taking out of the garage and the route to the hill.

The GTROC is already working on the UK launch with dealers and Nissan and will be involved

The GTROC is meeting Nissan in October (in Japan) to discuss other ways the club and Nissan can work together

Rear seats have sub holes (ICE?)

3 buttons on dash: "T", "S", "V"

Bose sound system

Gauge: 340kmh

If you notice in the pictures the rear wing is different again: so looks like they're still testing rear wings

Front lights are currently the same as the prototype

Steering wheel has other controls on it such as stereo etc.

There appears to be a lap timer as well linked to buttons on the wheel

It appears also to have cruise control, proving it is a tourer/every day car as well as a track beast

Door handles have a push in button for them to pop out to pull on

The car at Goodwood has different aero parts to some of the other models seen at the Ring, not just the rear spoiler

Quad exhaust system to mirror the twin round lights

Brembo 6 pot callipers

Bridgestone Potenza RE070

Satellite Navigation screen in with MFD

Steering wheel still has the R34 GTR look and feel

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Starting to let myself get a bit excited now. I think im going to stick a deposit down this week. A nice chat with the dealer earlier and I can get one of the first ones for end of next year delivery. I have been told its faster in a straight line than a 997 turbo, does the ring quicker than a 997 Gt2/CGT and has 4 seats. All this for the price of a fully specced E92 M3. Gotta be the right thing to do?

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Guess-timate Spec for the new GTR

1) V6 3.8 (VR 38) twin turbo engine producing in excess of 470bhp, 420lb-ft torque at 6700rpm

2) DSG paddle shift gearbox (similar to F1)

3) Active four wheel drive

4) ABS

5) Brembo 6 pot front brakes and 4 pot rear brakes

6) UK car fitted with extra oil coolers

7) Rear diffuser

8) Viscous limited slip rear differential

9) 20 inch wheels, Bridgestone RE070 tyres

10) Length 4855 mm

11) Height 1370 mm

12) Internal display unit for gauges (mfd)

13) Climate control

14) Satellite navigation – optional

15) Electric windows

16) Wide angle HID headlights

17) 4 seater

18) Leather interior

19) Bose sound system

20) Airbags

21) Thatcham 1 alarm system

22) Choice of 6 colours in (Japan)

23) Retail UK price from £55,000

24) UK delivery from September 2008

Non of the above specifications are confirmed but it is reasonably accurate through various sources.

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Its size and weight scare me a bit but I think it looks ok:

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Looks nice here

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but these seats look like the biggest pile of turd...

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Know im talking to myself ut seats look better here, still woried about the size and weight though...:

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