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any 1 out there had a race wid a scoopy just wanderd if there were fast.my mate has just got an 07 wrx dont want to race him if im goner look stupid.56 dsg silver is the fastest

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Hmmm, it would be close but if driven properly the scooby will take you every time. 0-60 is quicker by 0.5s and given that it has true 4wd.

Give it a go anyway, will be a good laugh... On a proper race track of course coffee.gif

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Me having had two scooby's 2000 turbo 216bhp also wrx 220bhp (not STI) i would say we would wup there ass( By the time you get the scooby off the line an .:R. would have gone )Now i have pushed a porker 4S to 135 and he bottled it?? He did not gain 20 mtrs on me after he over took me.(motorway in 5th waiting for him to pass) i have also followed a STI WRX to 100 but he was as weary of me as me of him so i will keep looking wink.gif

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Me having had two scooby's 2000 turbo 216bhp also wrx 220bhp (not STI) i would say we would wup there ass( By the time you get the scooby off the line an .:R. would have gone )Now i have pushed a porker 4S to 135 and he bottled it?? He did not gain 20 mtrs on me after he over took me.(motorway in 5th waiting for him to pass) i have also followed a STI WRX to 100 but he was as weary of me as me of him so i will keep looking wink.gif

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Bottling it at 135 on a motorway proves the porker driver is less than an idiot than you are, surely ?

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slap.gif Idiot? strong word, its not the speed that matters. Its how one drives at speed.Having an average of 45k+ miles a year work/pleasure, i think i know when to exploit the parameters of my vehicles 169144-ok.gif

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slap.gif Idiot? strong word, its not the speed that matters. Its how one drives at speed.Having an average of 45k+ miles a year work/pleasure, i think i know when to exploit the parameters of my vehicles 169144-ok.gif

Dobe

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Fair enough - that'll probably swing it for you when you're up in court grin.gif

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Dobe - Agreed that much does depend on how you drive at speed, but judging by your words, I would hope you have had some professional training. But I'm thinking that you probably haven't because you sound as if you are consciously looking for road races and that is not a safe practice. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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cmon peeps. please dont start another "you are very bad, i am very good" feeling. 169144-ok.gif

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Redrobin i assure you i'm not looking for road races at all its just the way i typed it,advanced driver training. back to topic, Nutcracker the all wheel drive of a scooby sapp's so much power on launch(they dont have £60k gear box like prodrive rally car) the .:R. would be off like a rocket,I dont think you would be shamed at all,also our tourqe is well down the rev range, where as a scooby runs out of steam quite quickly, so even down b roads we would hold our own.

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As they say, it's not the number of years experience or the distance you have covered but rather the amount of time spent driving under the right training and guidance.

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I'm sure all of us are guilty of breaking the limit by a fair margin every now and then. We don't have high performance cars for nothing, unless you are a poser. smile.gif

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Sorry, Dobe - I was just reacting to how I read your post (you can see why). I'm deffo not saying I'm any better than anyone else - Each of us will be better drivers than some and not as good as others.

Safe Journeys and have fun making progress while doing so 169144-ok.gif.

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Me having had two scooby's 2000 turbo 216bhp also wrx 220bhp (not STI) i would say we would wup there ass( By the time you get the scooby off the line an .:R. would have gone )Now i have pushed a porker 4S to 135 and he bottled it?? He did not gain 20 mtrs on me after he over took me.(motorway in 5th waiting for him to pass) i have also followed a STI WRX to 100 but he was as weary of me as me of him so i will keep looking wink.gif

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Oh dear, do I detect an element of GTI syndrome here tongue.gif

I would suggest the Carrera 4S wasn't trying all that hard 169144-ok.gif

There has to be an easy 10 seconds difference for, say, 80-140 and I would imagine that the gap in that time would be more than 20m. Had you both carried on being a bit silly then that gap would have only got much, much bigger.

As for the original topic, I would guess at a new std WRX being around 1 second shy of an R32 at 100mph but dropping a few more beyond that due to poor aerodynamics (in terms of absolute speed).

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Because all .:R owners stick to 70mph on a motorway that is completely deserted at 2am in the morning when coming home from work... Bollox. As Dobe says, there is a time and a place, usually when no one else is around and you can see well beyond what you can stop in, and there is thus no undue risk from other 'less than well trained' road users to cause an accident...

Let's not start another of these threads unless the one who casts the first stone is truly innocent of not ever taking part in such an activity ... 169144-ok.gif

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.... confused.gif - No-one is starting such a thread! By Dobe's own admission about his first post: "just the way I typed it" - We've already moved on.

169144-ok.gif Enjoy and have fun cool.gif

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Lets not get into a my twonker is bigger than yours here chaps? Nutcracker is the one who asked a question in orignal thread, so i just replied with my experiance as owning both cars, Redrobin i accept but apologise for my literature. Braksnake ,I think like my self every opportunity is treated with ut most respect 169144-ok.gif

D1MAC GTI syndrome?WTF

Speedywheels I am a true petrol head so if i offend you or any one with my need for speed i appologise now.

Bit off topic but this is what a bounce down tera firma looks like at 130 Attached pic is what was left of my gear minus the bike i never saw again.

No bitching please, We all beleive the .:R. would kick any ass RIGHT.

Dobe

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You got out of that unhurt...? Just goes to show, leathers are a life saver.. Cows do come in useful after all (plus medium rare 16oz steaks...) 169144-ok.gif

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Not un hurt mate but im still here jump.gif. 4months off work,compound fracture left patella(knee). yes cows are good for more than a mac a dee, Kangaroos even better,Leathers that is.

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id say you would beat a standard wrx quite easy, i had a uk300 and i got beat by a 3.2 quattro audi tt .

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D1MAC GTI syndrome?WTF

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If you have a sufficient nosey around you will see that SOME of the GTI drivers have a view that their choice is the fastest set of 4 wheels in the West ROLLEY~14.GIF

I'm an interested (but impartial) outsider and sometimes I do have a bit of a chuckle when the comedy comparisons get rolled out (FWIW I have an ASBO (but did consider an R32 amongst others, hence why I will occasionally knock around here) and the ST OC get at least as excited at times).

I look at things without any rose tinted specs and this just sounded to me like a stereotypical 'bullsh*t' special. The 4S has 320bhp and the R32 has 225-250bhp (depending on how long it's been run for) and given the Porsche weighs a touch less or the same at worst, there is no way you were really giving it a hard time - can't cheat the laws of physics at the end of the day.

I would have thought that as a biker you would have known better but confused.gif

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Rose tinted specs yelrotflmao.gif

The UK300 was a bit of a Duck for Subaru(sorry Dude)Not much more BHP than standard UK WRX without high octane fuel.

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If you have a sufficient nosey around you will see that SOME of the GTI drivers have a view that their choice is the fastest set of 4 wheels in the West ROLLEY~14.GIF

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hmm, I thought that was a well established fact... grin.gif

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The WRX and STi (newer shape) are both quicker cars point-to-point if driven well. Plain and simple.

The Golf weighs more and has less power - and although Haldex is very good it doesn't have the raw natural grip or feel of the Scooby AWD system. Not saying I rate the Scooby higher - but from a purists perspective it is designed as a performance motor from the off. The Golf is a fast variant of a family hatchback - not designed with pure racing/rallying/motorsport intentions.

Where the R32 feels quicker is the instant shove of torque in lower rev ranges - but without a doubt it's the slower car overall.

I say this from an ownership perspective as opposed to an on-road comparison perspective - it means nothing with different members of the public driving quick-ish cars on general roads. To be fair, neither car is sh1t-quick anyway - all things are relative ices_blah.gif

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The WRX and STi (newer shape) are both quicker cars point-to-point if driven well. Plain and simple.

The Golf weighs more and has less power - and although Haldex is very good it doesn't have the raw natural grip or feel of the Scooby AWD system. Not saying I rate the Scooby higher - but from a purists perspective it is designed as a performance motor from the off. The Golf is a fast variant of a family hatchback - not designed with pure racing/rallying/motorsport intentions.

Where the R32 feels quicker is the instant shove of torque in lower rev ranges - but without a doubt it's the slower car overall.

I say his from an ownership perspective as opposed to an on-road comparison perspective - it means nothing with different members of the public driving quick-ish cars on general roads. To be fair, neither car is sh1t-quick anyway - all things are relative ices_blah.gif

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amen!

haven driven R32's (mk4+5) and Subaru (STI's/Spec D's), there is simply no contest.

Suburu's are on a slightly different performance level

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