GCab Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 It may seem naive, but after running a tankful of this stuff, it really does seem to make a difference. It's claimed to decrease rattle by 15% and I have no way of measuring that quantitatively, but the subjective effect on my 2.5 V6 TDI is huge: it's enough to drop it from an unpleasant rattle at start-up to a sound that's (obviously) still there, but a much more mellow growl, without those stuttering high notes that produce most of the 'tractor' effect. And this is all while stationary - on the move it's positively creamy. It's not just sound, but feel - there always used to be a tiny amount of vibration in the gearstick while stationary, which is now gone. This is in a convertible, too, so I am in a position to have a good idea about sound ... (yes I have had the top down recently - those cold crisp blue mornings :-) ). Friends and colleagues notice the car is much quieter. I don't work for BP, by the way, and was curious but sceptical when buying it. I suppose, theoretically, it's easier to believe in an improved diesel than some super duper magic formula for petrol - the latter has been played around with for a while, but diesel has taken off so recently and been mainly a commercial fuel for so long (truckers aren't going to pay an arm and a leg for smoothness) that I can find it easy to believe that there are substantial improvements to be made. Anyway I love it... the car is transformed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaunty Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 This makes me wish I still had my tractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Right, I'm convinced - I'm gonna hunt me down a BP Ultimate outlet. Thanks for the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCab Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 let me know what you think - it takes a good half tank or so of consumption before you notice a sure difference (mind you, I filled a tank with Ultimate while it was still a quarter full of other stuff) Feel free to say if you think I'm imagining it - what I meant to do one day is get my wife to fill the tank for me unseen, and see if I can guess if its Ultimate ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradeywalker Posted November 1, 2003 Report Share Posted November 1, 2003 Thanks for the advise GanS I am definately going to give it a try I know this is slightly different to the topic but what oil would you recommend to put in a Golf TDI 150? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 2, 2003 Report Share Posted November 2, 2003 Someone told me they didn't use the normal "hose" colouring convention for this stuff so you could easily put petrol in by mistake, double check first Re: The oil, i think it depends whether you are on fixed interval or longlife servicing mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 DAMN DAMN DAMN!!! I picked my parents up from heathrow last night, but used the old mans car, and noticed as i drove back home, the BP garage on the way out of guildford (going south, towards portsmouth etc) sells ultimate.... Tried going to my nearest BP garage and asking about it....and the guy just looked at me like a nutta....don't think he realised they sold normal diesel, feckin moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Someone told me they didn't use the normal "hose" colouring convention for this stuff so you could easily put petrol in by mistake, double check first [/ QUOTE ] What sorta tit would do a thing like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCab Posted November 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Walker: Audi/VW recommend one particular (mainstream) oil, which my mind has gone blank on. Got some in the boot: I'll look at it and let you know. danksy: every BP garage in London seems to have the stuff: I read that they're rolling out to all areas around the new Year. Perhaps by then everyone will have tried it and told me I'm talking rubbish anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_simon Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Check on the BP web site, the have a Ultimate vs postcode things to find the nearest place that sells it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Ultimate Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradeywalker Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Walker: Audi/VW recommend one particular (mainstream) oil, which my mind has gone blank on. Got some in the boot: I'll look at it and let you know. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks GanS, I had the car serviced at 21000 miles, I have done around three thousand more now and the level is quite low, when I had the service they said they changed the oil (not longlife though) and all of those miles have been put on driving to Spain on the motorway, seems to me that it shouldn't be that low (but what do I know). I cant bloody remember the specification! I think the spec is slightly different as it is the 150bhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Filled up with the ultimate for the first time this morning. keep you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Petrol or Diesel (you tit (@@) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 [ QUOTE ] Petrol or Diesel (you tit (@@) ) [/ QUOTE ] Fair comment Nick.............. I only intend going down the petrol route only the once - too costly by far While I was at the BP place this morning I ASSUMED that I filled up with the Ultimate diesel, however reading their leaflet that I picked up this morning, I'm not too sure its says: ''BP is the first company in the UK to offer you the choice between standard and advanced fuels in borh diesel and unleaded'' I assumed all their diesel was 'Ultimate', after all the pumps were just labeled 'diesel' Have to check tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCab Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Ah. The Ultimate diesel pumps have blue nozzles and are distinctly labelled. Only some of the diesel pumps in any one station will have Ultimate; others are normal (otherwise they'd have a lot of pissed off lorry drivers wondering why their bills have just shot up). It is a bit confusing, because they don't sell them side by side (like 95 and 97 RON petrol) so you can choose which nozzle to pick up: instead (I assume for space reasons) they're on different pumps, so one pump will have Unleaded/Ultimate Petrol/Diesel, and another might have Unleaded/Ultimate Petrol/Ultimate Diesel. You have to look for the shields over the pumps. I suspect you have the normal stuff in your tank... Walker: Castrol Longlife II - it's marked 'special edition for VW/Audi' (this is a bottle I bought off the shelf at a BP garage, not one I got from Audi). It's the same as the one supplied with the car. There is some further text specifying which edition of oil (!) it is, and not to use it if your manual doesn't recommend it, or some such. But mine's a TDI like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCab Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Actually Longlife II SLX, I think. No idea how these things are subcategorised. Are there any downsides to Longlife ? Just found this on baileycar.com via Google: --------- Oil - it’s not the sexiest subject but one manufacturer has just come up with a new product that could interest many more drivers. Castrol has just launched SLX Longlife II. It might sound like a brand of designer beer but this oil has the ability to keep some engines operating for up to a staggering 30,000 miles ( 50,000 Km ) between changes. Audi Variable Service concept (AVS) first appeared in the European A2 - a car designed without a hood for minimal mechanical interference by the owner. The low maintenance idea has been extended to other cars in the Audi range since, and Longlife gives these cars the potential to cover up to 19,000 miles ( 30,000 Km ) between services. Audi’s V6 TDI diesels can cover as many as 22,000 miles ( 36,000 Km )before draining the sump and four-cylinder TDI diesels might, in the right circumstances, avoid mechanics for up to 30,000 miles. Audi spokesman David Goosey said "This oil has been developed to maintain its viscosity characteristics, and so deliver the key benefits of fuel efficiency and wear protection, throughout far longer oil drain intervals." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradeywalker Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Thanks for the info GanS Very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danksy Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Walker:- Mobil 1 also suffices IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradeywalker Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Cheers dansky I remember now, thats what I used last time! (the one in the gold bottle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 How annoying, took a detour on the way to work today, to go to the nearest ultimate diesel outlet, and the only blue pump i could find was LPG. All the others were just labelled diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCab Posted November 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Hmm, I'll check again to make sure I'm not misleading you. I'm pretty sure the nozzles, at least, were distinctive, not the usual black. The little shield on them definitely says 'Ultimate Diesel'. I'll check again to see what the pump looks like - haven't been back since, what with the high diesel mpg and all :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradeywalker Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 [ QUOTE ] I'll check again to see what the pump looks like - haven't been back since, what with the high diesel mpg and all :-) [/ QUOTE ] It is good having a diesel, never thought I would say thay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'll check again to see what the pump looks like - haven't been back since, what with the high diesel mpg and all :-) [/ QUOTE ] It is good having a diesel, never thought I would say thay! [/ QUOTE ] I fill up once a week in my tractor. Have borrowed my mothers MGF a couple of times for work, and i seem to need to fill up twice in the same period, driving the same way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 [ QUOTE ] How annoying, took a detour on the way to work today, to go to the nearest ultimate diesel outlet, and the only blue pump i could find was LPG. All the others were just labelled diesel [/ QUOTE ] I went back to my BP outlet and all I could see was ordinary diesel pumps, no ones with different colours??? Maybe the feckers are advertising it, but not selling it yet !!!! Stoooooopid BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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