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Retrofit electric folding mirrors

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Does anyone know where I can get this done? I'm about to take ownership of an A4 Avant (used) but desperately need the mirrors to be auto-folding as I have an extremely tight off-street parking space.

Thanks!

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No idea I'm afraid but I can tell you that they don't actually "Auto Fold".

You still have to switch them in and out from the control on the door switch. It's a pity that they don't swing in and out with the door locking/unlocking.

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No idea I'm afraid but I can tell you that they don't actually "Auto Fold".

You still have to switch them in and out from the control on the door switch.

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... and the ignition has to be on for the switch to work.

... and you have to be moving at less than 10km/h.

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No idea I'm afraid but I can tell you that they don't actually "Auto Fold".

You still have to switch them in and out from the control on the door switch.

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... and the ignition has to be on for the switch to work.

... and you have to be moving at less than 10km/h.

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... and even then, they still stick out a fair way frown.gif

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Thanks for the info. Actually, whilst the automatic feature would be nice, my main requirement is to be able to have them fold at the touch of a button, rather than have to get out of the car and do so manually.

Surely it must be possible to get this done somewhere?

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you're best bet would be find some elec folding mirrors, study the wiring diagrams and maybe take power from the mirror heater. but then where is your switch - you could make a crude one, but surely its loads of work to put a proper switch in the door controls, rewire all the electrics etc. i'm sure loads of people would be doing it if the car was wired for them as standard (which i dont think it is!)

you dont save much width anyway. not sure of the mm you gain, but cant be that much.

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Just been out and measured mine on an A4 Avant, and folded in is 10cm(4in) less each side.

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when i got my A6 2.7t a while ago i after i enquired about retro fitting auto folding mirrors, i found a dealers in Surrey who said they can do it but the price was about £1500, as it needs a new wiring loom, complete new mirrors at nearly £300 each and at that point i decided to fold them in myself

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at that point i decided to fold them in myself

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With a B7 RS4 you can't even do that - the mirrors don't fold, not even manually.

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You don't state what model you are looking at, but here are the figures for the B6 S4 Avant. The B7 will no doubt be exactly the same. Note the S4 shares the same mirrors as the stock A4, albeit with optional brushed aluminium caps, whereas the [b7] RS4 has model-unique 'teardrop' mirrors that are fixed as Dave mentions above.

Both out 1956 mm

Both in 1781mm

Hence with one folded (easy to do from the drivers' seat when reversing) 1869mm

Source RSmodels.net

Ian

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at that point i decided to fold them in myself

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With a B7 RS4 you can't even do that - the mirrors don't fold, not even manually.

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Unless you clip someone else's mirror at speed.

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True true - the plan view pic I linked above demonstrates this.

Obviously if you've got a C6 RS6 [on order] you still have the arches to worry about!

Ian

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Great in formation, much appreciated. I have a B7 by the way. Still surprised nobody seems to be able to to this work for a price that's not crazy.

Thanks again.

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Not too bad a job to retrofit, it more a case of getting hold of the folding mirrors themselves. I have a spare set that I might consider selling for the right money, but you'll have to hard wire them into the car and unless you are a competant electrica guy then I would not advise doing it yourself.

Andy

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The older A6s (amongst others) used a separate relay under the dash to control the folding mirrors. Part number 4A0 907 440.

The wiring is in this link:

http://www.carcajou.de/howto/spiegel.htm

The wiring is under "Anschlussplan" link

This guy wired the trigger to the SAFE signal from the alarm so they just open and close when you unlock or lock the car.

You still need a switch to actually actuate the folding action of course. (I can't believe I just said that! grin.gif)

It needs to feed from a switched earth. Normally (in the factory install) the feed was wired to the microswitch in the actual mirror base.

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This is top quality posting chaps. Keep it coming. beerchug.gif

Ian

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Can't believe you follow all this stuff, Ian, what with having a Pug and all! tongue.gif

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Hi all

I am wanting to do the electric folding mirrors retrofit to my b6 Audi A4 but havn't got a clue where to start.:confused: Can anybody shed some light on this please or know where I can find the instructions to do this retrofit.

Thanks

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Done this to my B6 Cab (as well as loads of other things including memory seats, memory mirrors, anti dazzle etc).

this is what you need - all available on Ebay:

1) new mirror switch - approx £10 - this will have to have the possibility to turn 360 degrees (on ebay the correct one has 2 small see through windows). NOTE this switch works off varying the voltage on the 4 wires so you cannot just setup a switch!!

2) New mirrors, if you live in UK/Ireland you MUST get them from EBAY UK as the angles are totally different on the US/German mirrors due to LHD. expect to pay approx £100 - I actually sold a set for £80. there are 2 options here, one which will have the frame that holds it in the door and the other that is just the mirror frame. Looking at them the second option is much more difficult to work with as you have to remove a very large clip that could be easily broken. If you go with the second option, make sure the base is included as without it the motor will have nothing to turn against.

3) some time to lay 2 wires down to the door control unit - depending on the model the actual wiring differs. If you send me your exact model I can send you the pin numbers.

4) Almost forgot, you may have to route the wires through the frame if the one you get does not have the loom attached (this is a pain in the arse - had to do it for the wires for the memory mirrors - needed 4 new ones). so go for ones with the wires attached.

Viola, when you turn the knob the mirrors will fold.

Note you can make them power folding (next on my list) - I have to check it out but the door module has 2 connections that are for locked and unlocked. If these supply either a pulse of constant voltage depending on the state of the car one could easily attach 2 timed relays (£15 each) that would trigger when the car is locked unlocked and do the necessary (changing the polarity to the motors). Basic electics really. Note each door requires 2 modules and you need to say 2 wires from the drivers side to the passenger side (though there could be an easier way) to trigger the relays. It must be timed as you want the motors to run for 10 seconds otherwise they will burn out - they don't autostop.

If you need any more info let me know

Walter

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Can you help me out with the wiring? I got switch, both mirrors installed... they don't work off the bat on a B7. The mirrors have the wiring (Actually all have full wiring even if they are not folding etc) and they go to the door module just that they don't fold when i turn the switch 180.

Chris

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Can you help me out with the wiring? I got switch, both mirrors installed... they don't work off the bat on a B7. The mirrors have the wiring (Actually all have full wiring even if they are not folding etc) and they go to the door module just that they don't fold when i turn the switch 180.

Chris

What window control module do you have? Some do not have the ability to fold. Send me the code - you can get this through vagcom and I will check it on Etka. Also mirrors only have the required wires for the functions they are designed to support (at least for the B6). Wiring is pins 9 and 10 so you could check the module to see if these pins are there or open it to make sure the relay is there W.

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Can't believe you follow all this stuff, Ian, what with having a Pug and all!

All good things come to those who wait!! :)

Shame RSmodels.net went a good few years back now, was a handy site

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