Mook Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Read the tyre test in EVO mag last night. Goodyear F1 Assymetric, Michelin Pilot Sport 2s, Yokahamas, Pirelli P-Zero Neros, Bridgestones and a couple more - sorry, can't remember all the variations and numbers! I cheated and went straight to the verdict and was really surprised by the verdict on the P-Zero Neros, as I ran these on the R32 for the last 20K miles and they were better all round than the PS2s, but EVO thought otherwise. They did all of the tests using a Mk5 GTI (well they'd have to do it in the fastest car available ). The Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric came out on top as the best all round tyre. Would you switch to these next time you need to change your tyres, purely based on their recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torino101 Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Defo. I've just sold my latest car, just as it was needing new tyres, but I was planning on replacing with these F1's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritey Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 My experience with Yoko's and Goodyears would lead me to buy Goodyears again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I have switched from Goodyear F1's to Falken 452's, better all round and a bit cheaper. Problem with that test it was all scientific, ie braking distance in wet, braking distance in the dry etc. etc. One of the tests was how much G you could get before the tryes let go, and here lies the problem with these tests, the PS2 is in a completely different league to the others in that test for pure out and out driving pleasure, because they let go earlier than most tyres. Not what you want from a tyre most people will say, and you are right, but with the PS2 tyre you can feel it going and you have total control, compare that with the goodyear, that tyre holds on a lot longer, but when it goes it goes very quickly and you have very little chance of controlling it. It seems a shame that they didn't put these on a car and just spend an hour seeing how it handles in everyday driving, being able to control a car perfectly appeals to me far more than it being able to stop in 79.2 metres with the best tyre compared with 79.7 metres for the worst. Tyre tests are next to useless imho, the fact that most tyres that handle well on a smooth track handle like a pig on a rough road and vice versa. It is real world reviews that I prefer to listen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Nope, 1 set of Eagle F1's were enough for me to never want any Goodyear Tyre on my car again. If unexplainable weird tyre wear, and increasing noises like failing bearing are " within manufacturing tollerances " and considered normal They can keep them, and anything produce. (I sent the entire set of 4 back for analysis after removing them earlier than legally needed, because of the problems) Something was not right with those tyres, whatever the report found. (Their own report i might add) As soon as i got rid of them all the noises dissapeared. I have not had the weird wear patterns since either. I will stick to Mitchelin. Currently PS2's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winrya Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 yep only ever buy goodyears these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 My car was supplied on Continentals....I then had Bridgestones.....And now Goodyear F1's which I find streets ahead of the others. So, unless I hear bad reports, I'll be getting Assymetrics next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Based on other peoples opinions on various forums, i've got 4 asymmetrics costed up and now deciding when would be prudent to replace my current rubber... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark_90 Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 I've had F1's now for a couple of years and won't have anything else when I'm buying. Having said that I currently have a full set of Michelin Pilot Sport (not sure if they're PS2's.. is there an obvious "PS2" written on them if they are?) on the S2 so I'll see how I go with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 The ps2 is written just after the Pilot Sport in tiny letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacake Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 [ QUOTE ] If unexplainable weird tyre wear, and increasing noises like failing bearing are " within manufacturing tollerances " and considered normal They can keep them, and anything produce. [/ QUOTE ] Funny you should say that. I've been an F1 convert for a while, and have put them on every car I've owned for the last few years (6 sets and counting). However, the most recent set on my Saab 9-5 have had problems similar to those you describe - excessive noise, wayward handling and shocking wear. One of the fronts was almost down to the canvas inside 9000 miles. I had two new ones fitted yesterday and the car seems much better on the handling side, although there's still that "failing bearing" noise and I wait to see how long they last... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted September 19, 2007 Report Share Posted September 19, 2007 Will go for PS2s on my next car as its those or runflats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snail Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I cant decide about F1s these days. I had GSD2/GSD3s on the Audi and absolutely loved them. On the Back of my last BMW they were great, but on the front of the BMW they were horrendous, understeering like a mofo, and making lots of noise. I had to swap the dodgy F1s to the back of my BMW (putting the rear Khumo's on the front) and they were fabulous again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Funny you should say that. I've been an F1 convert for a while, and have put them on every car I've owned for the last few years (6 sets and counting). However, the most recent set on my Saab 9-5 have had problems similar to those you describe - excessive noise, wayward handling and shocking wear. One of the fronts was almost down to the canvas inside 9000 miles. I had two new ones fitted yesterday and the car seems much better on the handling side, although there's still that "failing bearing" noise and I wait to see how long they last... [/ QUOTE ] ....Were they the genuine ones? - There's stories of some fakes on the market . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiefox Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I've never used Goodyears, but have had PS2s on the TTs and also switched the Z4 run flats to PS2 extra load - I'm impressed with them, wet and dry performance. Not sure about trying the new Goodyears but the Evo review is certainly comprehensive and makes you consider them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 This thread really highlights the issue with tyres. Some suit some cars and really don't suit others. Just as there's no overall "best" car, there's no overall "best" tyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] This thread really highlights the issue with tyres. Some suit some cars and really don't suit others. Just as there's no overall "best" car, there's no overall "best" tyre. [/ QUOTE ] ....Nail....Head....On Fortunately for Mk5 GTI drivers, I understand the EVO tests were done on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacake Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] ....Were they the genuine ones? - There's stories of some fakes on the market . [/ QUOTE ] I did wonder that, but in the event there are so many possible factors at play here that it's impossible to know. It was a new car (to me), front-wheel drive with way too much power (so likely to eat fronts more quickly), and it took me a while to find that the tyre fitter had only inflated them to 30psi instead of the 36psi they should have been running (which can't have helped). So I chalk this one up to experience and hope the next pair are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Fortunately for Mk5 GTI drivers, I understand the EVO tests were done on one. [/ QUOTE ] That's because they had to test them on the only car that would give the maximum possible lateral load, acceleration and stopping power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 But they did test the 17" wheels did they not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted September 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 Yes, because they said it was "the most commonly sold performance wheel/tyre size" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssFour Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] This thread really highlights the issue with tyres. Some suit some cars and really don't suit others. Just as there's no overall "best" car, there's no overall "best" tyre. [/ QUOTE ] I'll drink to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 It looks like I'm going to need some new front tyres soon. Can anyone recommend a good non-performance orientated tyre? Most of the time my wife and child are in the car, so I don't a performance tyre as such. However, I do need something dependable, long lasting and quiet. Any suggestions? Currently have Dunlop Sport Maxx and want to try something different. What are the tyres like you get on Alloys from ebay? I could get a new set of 18"ers for not too much extra cost. RS4 RS6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyGTi Posted September 20, 2007 Report Share Posted September 20, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Problem with that test it was all scientific, ie braking distance in wet, braking distance in the dry etc. etc. ...........It seems a shame that they didn't put these on a car and just spend an hour seeing how it handles in everyday driving, being able to control a car perfectly appeals to me far more ....... Tyre tests are next to useless imho, the fact that most tyres that handle well on a smooth track handle like a pig on a rough road and vice versa. It is real world reviews that I prefer to listen too. [/ QUOTE ] They did actually do a 25 minute road test on a mix of surfaces (the last test) The scores for this were :- Subjective Road Route Test (25mins on mix of surfaces) The tyres were driven blind 1. Vredestein 100% 2. Dunlop 92.5% 3. Michelin 90.5% 4. Pirelli 89.4% 5. Goodyear 88.9% 6. Bridgestone 88.1% 7. Kumho 87.0% 8. Continental 86.5% 9. Yokohama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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