Thinking of a KO4 turbo upgrade for my diesel

marky r · 11-09-2008, 07:48 AM

hey as the title say im thinking of a KO4 turbo upgrade for my 1.9GT TDI 130BHP golf i got one offerd to me when i went and bought a leather interior for my brothers leon and what the man was telling me well i was tempterd has anyone done this before? and what should i look for? i understand theres alot of diffrent models so ill find out which one it is?

shark_90 · 11-09-2008, 08:18 AM

I don't think that's a particularly good idea at all.. turbos made for petrol engines are very different to turbos made for diesel engines, and then you've got all the problems of trying to bolt it on (because it probably won't fit) and then plumbing it in. Then you've got to get someone to map for it. And then it will probably be practically undriveable!

If you want serious performance out of your TDi, then speak to Allard Motorsport. Lloyd Allard is the main man there.

Avus_Bub · 11-09-2008, 08:20 PM

What you want is a Roll Royce Olympus 593. I know where there are a few going cheap, since Concorde was taken out of service

Like Shark says you may have an issue or two bolting it on and when you light the afterburners your head gasket will get a workout. But I think it may be a better bet than trying to fit a K04 to your 1.9 TDi.

Good luck!

Cuprabob · 12-09-2008, 09:07 AM

I would imagine it would help the heater as well

wcs_80 · 14-09-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by marky r

hey as the title say im thinking of a KO4 turbo upgrade for my 1.9GT TDI 130BHP golf i got one offerd to me when i went and bought a leather interior for my brothers leon and what the man was telling me well i was tempterd has anyone done this before? and what should i look for? i understand theres alot of diffrent models so ill find out which one it is?

Hi Mark

Your best option is a Hybrid turbo upgrade.

We custom map these to produce up to 250bhp. You will need to upgrade a few other things too. Performance clutch is a must, as the stock clutch is rated at 300lbs/ft torque, which even our stage 1 software can reach.

If you want any advice, feel free to contact me at info@p-torque.co.uk

Cheers
Will

marky r · 24-09-2008, 11:21 AM

if i get it remapped i can get nearly 200bhp. but if prefer the hybrid turbo how much would the parts cost me and fitting the cars got just over 80,000 on it.

shark_90 · 24-09-2008, 02:52 PM

I dunno who told you 200BHP mate but they were talking out of their arse, more like 160-170 tops.

BW2309 · 24-09-2008, 05:34 PM

A hybrid turbo will give great results but a K04 will not fit. Your diesel has a much more efficient VGT (variable geomerty turbine) unit that does away with the waste gate system. Youe ECU is designed to continuously regulate boost pressure via this system and so would not run a waste gate. You would also experiance terrible lag and very peaky torque as the VGT keeps the boost/torque at it's optimum throughout the rev range.
Also, they are a very different size, shape and fitment. Like the gas turbine idea though....... where's my socket set and pocket money...

Here's a cut away of a VGT turbo for interest...

marky r · 25-09-2008, 10:01 AM

its on the jabbamotorsport website the stage 2 rollingroad ramap takes it to about 180 to 194 bhp but thinking bout it wonder if thats with a new clutch

wonder what other parts youd need!. is there anyone thats put a hybrid turbo on the vw golf? and could anyone recommend were i could source one from? im not as clued up as some people on here but iv got an idea. i still love driving the car and iv heard some people say there savage with a remap and other stuff but i just wanna do go one step further 30 or 40bhp ill soon get bored lol!

shark_90 · 25-09-2008, 11:10 AM

I run a 130 Bora with a remap and it will easily spin in 2nd in the dry if I'm not careful. I'd go one step at a time if I were you and get a stage 1, it'll certainly keep you happy for a while and not break the bank.

11-09-2008, 07:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
marky r stranger Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: leeds westyorkshire Posts: 11	Thinking of a KO4 turbo upgrade for my diesel hey as the title say im thinking of a KO4 turbo upgrade for my 1.9GT TDI 130BHP golf i got one offerd to me when i went and bought a leather interior for my brothers leon and what the man was telling me well i was tempterd has anyone done this before? and what should i look for? i understand theres alot of diffrent models so ill find out which one it is?

11-09-2008, 08:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
shark_90 Audi R8 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,731	I don't think that's a particularly good idea at all.. turbos made for petrol engines are very different to turbos made for diesel engines, and then you've got all the problems of trying to bolt it on (because it probably won't fit) and then plumbing it in. Then you've got to get someone to map for it. And then it will probably be practically undriveable! If you want serious performance out of your TDi, then speak to Allard Motorsport. Lloyd Allard is the main man there. __________________ My 18 cylinder garage: 1985 Audi 90 quattro - Project quattro 1994 Audi S2 Avant - Project track monster 1998 Suzuki Bandit 600 S - Two wheeled fun 2003 Bora Highline TDi - Because someone's got to

11-09-2008, 08:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
Avus_Bub Audi RS4 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Surrey Posts: 3,347	What you want is a Roll Royce Olympus 593. I know where there are a few going cheap, since Concorde was taken out of service Like Shark says you may have an issue or two bolting it on and when you light the afterburners your head gasket will get a workout. But I think it may be a better bet than trying to fit a K04 to your 1.9 TDi. Good luck! __________________ It costs a lot of money to look this cheap. Dolly Parton Bub's 240ps S-Line Quattro Avant & Bikes

12-09-2008, 09:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cuprabob BMW 130d Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 1,130	I would imagine it would help the heater as well __________________ Mk5 R32 DSG, DBP, 3 Dr, Leather Recaros, RCD500 with soundpack, Armrest, Winter Pack and Luxury Pack 2 Suzuki GSXR1000K7, Blue/White,

24-09-2008, 02:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
shark_90 Audi R8 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,731	I dunno who told you 200BHP mate but they were talking out of their arse, more like 160-170 tops. __________________ My 18 cylinder garage: 1985 Audi 90 quattro - Project quattro 1994 Audi S2 Avant - Project track monster 1998 Suzuki Bandit 600 S - Two wheeled fun 2003 Bora Highline TDi - Because someone's got to

24-09-2008, 11:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
marky r stranger Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: leeds westyorkshire Posts: 11	if i get it remapped i can get nearly 200bhp. but if prefer the hybrid turbo how much would the parts cost me and fitting the cars got just over 80,000 on it.

25-09-2008, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
marky r stranger Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: leeds westyorkshire Posts: 11	its on the jabbamotorsport website the stage 2 rollingroad ramap takes it to about 180 to 194 bhp but thinking bout it wonder if thats with a new clutch wonder what other parts youd need!. is there anyone thats put a hybrid turbo on the vw golf? and could anyone recommend were i could source one from? im not as clued up as some people on here but iv got an idea. i still love driving the car and iv heard some people say there savage with a remap and other stuff but i just wanna do go one step further 30 or 40bhp ill soon get bored lol!

25-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
shark_90 Audi R8 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,731	I run a 130 Bora with a remap and it will easily spin in 2nd in the dry if I'm not careful. I'd go one step at a time if I were you and get a stage 1, it'll certainly keep you happy for a while and not break the bank. __________________ My 18 cylinder garage: 1985 Audi 90 quattro - Project quattro 1994 Audi S2 Avant - Project track monster 1998 Suzuki Bandit 600 S - Two wheeled fun 2003 Bora Highline TDi - Because someone's got to