bora 1.9 tdi smoke and starting problem

xzainy · 17-04-2010, 04:18 PM

hi. my vw bora 1.9 tdi (p.d engine 130 bhp) has a starting problem.
when i start it from cold it starts and then cuts off. the second time i try to restart it, it takes a long time, but eventually starts. then after a few mins it starts blowing smoke out. the smoke eventually clears up once the car has warmed up, but for the last few days the smoke has been there even once its warmed up.
this happens everytime i start the car from cold.
there is no loss of power and it drives ok.
ive changed the fuel filter, and its still the same. i had the oil changed about 1 month ago. any help appreciated. thnx.

cruiser647 · 17-04-2010, 05:39 PM

What colour is the smoke?

You might have a split air/turbo pipe.

xzainy · 18-04-2010, 05:51 AM

the smoke is grey/blue, and smells of burning oil/diesel.
the smoke only lasts for about 10 mins, then its gone.
i have no loss in power.

cruiser647 · 18-04-2010, 01:59 PM

See how it goes now your EGR is clean. Probably was the wrong amount of air/diesel mix.

xzainy · 18-04-2010, 05:36 PM

yes, that was my other bora. im glad that is fixed. but this one is my main car, and i have spent well over 2 thousand pound on it.
i cleaned the egr out on this one aswel, but still the same problem.
plz, if u have any inkling, as to what it could be...?

cruiser647 · 19-04-2010, 10:32 AM

I presume the oil level is OK and not reducing seriously?
Any breather pipes? If they are blocked, then they could create vacuums in teh wrong places, allowing oil to be drawn into the cylinders???

xzainy · 19-04-2010, 06:03 PM

yes, oil level is ok, and it doesnt loose any oil.
ive checked the breather pipes and they are also ok.
ive noticed one thing today....when i start it, and wait for ALL the ignition lights to go off, including the airbag one, then it starts first time, but still blows smoke for about 5 min. ive spent to much cash on this car...almost over £2000, in the last year..

cruiser647 · 19-04-2010, 09:02 PM

What have you spent the money on? If you don't mind me asking.

xzainy · 20-04-2010, 07:57 PM

injector (fitted and supplied by vw) cost £860.
oil sump cost (my old one cracked and was leaking oil)
batery and starter motor
new brakes and disk
wishbone
gearbox repair
fuel filter
plus a few other bits which i cant remember. most of the work was done by vw...
not to mention the diagnostic checks...
i understand now, why they call them the stealers.

xzainy · 21-04-2010, 01:02 PM

also forgot to ask, do u think it might be the heater plugs?

17-04-2010, 04:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
xzainy Fiat 500 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36	bora 1.9 tdi smoke and starting problem hi. my vw bora 1.9 tdi (p.d engine 130 bhp) has a starting problem. when i start it from cold it starts and then cuts off. the second time i try to restart it, it takes a long time, but eventually starts. then after a few mins it starts blowing smoke out. the smoke eventually clears up once the car has warmed up, but for the last few days the smoke has been there even once its warmed up. this happens everytime i start the car from cold. there is no loss of power and it drives ok. ive changed the fuel filter, and its still the same. i had the oil changed about 1 month ago. any help appreciated. thnx.

17-04-2010, 05:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
cruiser647 BBC Correspondant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Anywhere but work.... Posts: 17,038	What colour is the smoke? You might have a split air/turbo pipe. __________________ "There will be no whitewash in the White House." Richard M Nixon. Speaking of liars, look at this website!:- http://www.labour.org.uk/home

18-04-2010, 01:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
cruiser647 BBC Correspondant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Anywhere but work.... Posts: 17,038	See how it goes now your EGR is clean. Probably was the wrong amount of air/diesel mix. __________________ "There will be no whitewash in the White House." Richard M Nixon. Speaking of liars, look at this website!:- http://www.labour.org.uk/home

19-04-2010, 10:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
cruiser647 BBC Correspondant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Anywhere but work.... Posts: 17,038	I presume the oil level is OK and not reducing seriously? Any breather pipes? If they are blocked, then they could create vacuums in teh wrong places, allowing oil to be drawn into the cylinders??? __________________ "There will be no whitewash in the White House." Richard M Nixon. Speaking of liars, look at this website!:- http://www.labour.org.uk/home

19-04-2010, 09:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
cruiser647 BBC Correspondant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Anywhere but work.... Posts: 17,038	What have you spent the money on? If you don't mind me asking. __________________ "There will be no whitewash in the White House." Richard M Nixon. Speaking of liars, look at this website!:- http://www.labour.org.uk/home

18-04-2010, 05:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
xzainy Fiat 500 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36	the smoke is grey/blue, and smells of burning oil/diesel. the smoke only lasts for about 10 mins, then its gone. i have no loss in power.

18-04-2010, 05:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
xzainy Fiat 500 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36	yes, that was my other bora. im glad that is fixed. but this one is my main car, and i have spent well over 2 thousand pound on it. i cleaned the egr out on this one aswel, but still the same problem. plz, if u have any inkling, as to what it could be...?

19-04-2010, 06:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
xzainy Fiat 500 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36	yes, oil level is ok, and it doesnt loose any oil. ive checked the breather pipes and they are also ok. ive noticed one thing today....when i start it, and wait for ALL the ignition lights to go off, including the airbag one, then it starts first time, but still blows smoke for about 5 min. ive spent to much cash on this car...almost over £2000, in the last year..

20-04-2010, 07:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
xzainy Fiat 500 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36	injector (fitted and supplied by vw) cost £860. oil sump cost (my old one cracked and was leaking oil) batery and starter motor new brakes and disk wishbone gearbox repair fuel filter plus a few other bits which i cant remember. most of the work was done by vw... not to mention the diagnostic checks... i understand now, why they call them the stealers.

21-04-2010, 01:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
xzainy Fiat 500 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 36	also forgot to ask, do u think it might be the heater plugs?