Golfer Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Diesel, Yep 635D is here, and what a car. Drove it yesterday and was very impressed, new engine has more torque and the auto box a sensation, gear changes UP or Down fab, I-Drive is improved as well........... I want one next year. At last a BMW I feel really meets the mark both interior and exterior wise with a engine and box that really makes ALL other diesels (4.2TDI apart) feel week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 And then there is the remap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 [ QUOTE ] And then there is the remap!! [/ QUOTE ] Yes It will be done, that will give 48 BHP and 100NM Yippiiiiiiiiiiiiii A bullit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorburn Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 [ QUOTE ] gear changes UP or Down [/ QUOTE ] I hate cars that only do one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Do you like the look of the 6 series then John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Do you like the look of the 6 series then John? [/ QUOTE ] Well it's subtle improvements help it, and in the right colour it is more appealing to me than the new M3, I-Drive seems easer to use, the parking sensors show a full car picture and give clear distances to objects, I love those new option 19" wheels. It would not maybe suit a family but next year there will be just the two of us so............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 You really want to get back into a diesel don't you John. Sick of filling up every 200 miles? You could have saved a packet and had my 04 645Ci (petrol I know) but it went today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 [ QUOTE ] You really want to get back into a diesel don't you John. Sick of filling up every 200 miles? You could have saved a packet and had my 04 645Ci (petrol I know) but it went today. [/ QUOTE ]No not really, I don't want to pay the 6 series price (and I wont) but it is a good car, I am getting 24/26 MPG from the RS so not bad at all. What economy was the 645i giving out of interest?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sc00t Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I'm getting 500 miles from about 53 litres in my DMS 335D . Ace engine and will stay nicely tucked up behind an RS4 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 [ QUOTE ] I'm getting 500 miles from about 53 litres in my DMS 335D . Ace engine and will stay nicely tucked up behind an RS4 too. [/ QUOTE ] Thats nice and cheap to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you like the look of the 6 series then John? [/ QUOTE ] Well it's subtle improvements help it, and in the right colour it is more appealing to me than the new M3, I-Drive seems easer to use, the parking sensors show a full car picture and give clear distances to objects, I love those new option 19" wheels. It would not maybe suit a family but next year there will be just the two of us so............ [/ QUOTE ] Fair enough then For me the 6 series only works in Black because-and lets be kind here-it isn't the best looking car in the world. The rear end/boot line is just so wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You really want to get back into a diesel don't you John. Sick of filling up every 200 miles? You could have saved a packet and had my 04 645Ci (petrol I know) but it went today. [/ QUOTE ]No not really, I don't want to pay the 6 series price (and I wont) but it is a good car, I am getting 24/26 MPG from the RS so not bad at all. What economy was the 645i giving out of interest?. [/ QUOTE ] 23/24 out of the 645. You must be light footed in the RS4. I'm expecting 20 out of the M3 (replaced the 645). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted November 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You really want to get back into a diesel don't you John. Sick of filling up every 200 miles? You could have saved a packet and had my 04 645Ci (petrol I know) but it went today. [/ QUOTE ]No not really, I don't want to pay the 6 series price (and I wont) but it is a good car, I am getting 24/26 MPG from the RS so not bad at all. What economy was the 645i giving out of interest?. [/ QUOTE ] 23/24 out of the 645. You must be light footed in the RS4. I'm expecting 20 out of the M3 (replaced the 645). [/ QUOTE ] I have driven TWO M3's and both in normal road use showed 24/26MPG, I actually saw 28MPG once!!!! Hard driving Duno as I could not get it on Snetterton track, we are working on it though, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Recap on the 6, I drove it for some hours in wet/damp conditions today on A/B roads and the ride was terrible, put the power down and esp came on back end loose, bumped and crashed on these roads........ it really was awfull, put me right off........ those run-flats with hard suspension kill the car on poor roads, I could not put power down it just stepped out all the time............ no good it me, off my list. Just why do they put these tyres on such expensive cars knowing they are ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Then you need a 535d M Sport with 19" - comes with normal tyres, not run flats. Good deals on all fives at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I do wonder whether the 635d will kill new sales of the 630i and 650i and make these two petrol models residual nightmares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Maybe, but I think there will always be people who want the straight six and V8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irnbrukid Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Not just the 6 but alot of good cars in the BMW range ruined by the crap tyres they are shod with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] Maybe, but I think there will always be people who want the straight six and V8. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. Plus they sound better, suit the car more and petrol costs less than diesel!! As usual people get swept up into the "diesel is best" mentality but unless you are covering well over 12k miles a year the real world cost benefit in derv over petrol isn't there... Just my 2p's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfer Posted November 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Maybe, but I think there will always be people who want the straight six and V8. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. Plus they sound better, suit the car more and petrol costs less than diesel!! As usual people get swept up into the "diesel is best" mentality but unless you are covering well over 12k miles a year the real world cost benefit in derv over petrol isn't there... Just my 2p's worth. [/ QUOTE ] Yes wise words indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I agree with the words completely, trouble is the trade is slaughtering big petrol cars these days so the reality has really changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbgwz Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 My brother company car for the night is a 650 convertible in carbon black and it sounds the dogs swinging bits. Never been a big fan of the 6 series but lately they have been growing on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 [ QUOTE ] As usual people get swept up into the "diesel is best" mentality but unless you are covering well over 12k miles a year the real world cost benefit in derv over petrol isn't there... [/ QUOTE ] Spot on mate. I drive a sootchucker purely because I do 30k miles a year. in a big petrol thats another £few hundred/month and a PITA of having to refill the car every couple of days. Diesels sound like a bag of spanners on idle. Even the big audi and BMW engines. Some people think they dont, because they just listen to it from the inside. From the outside they all sound shite IMO. You cant beat a petrol for sound, but the performance of the V6 sooties is fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 You are both right but the market is changing to diesel - shame really. My 50k near five year old B6 S4 Avant is now worth buttons. Big engined petrol only makes sense used which, of course, means that the number of people buying them new will now fall - perversely this may lead to used prices rising as supply falls....but I doubt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think that will change pretty soon, I had a 330i for 48 hours a couple of weeks back and it returned just under 38mpg!! Compare that with the 330d I got last year which doing the same driving only managed 31mpg, now obviously unless you drive round with them side by side you can't really compare like that, but 38mpg without trying is amazing!! Now let's be honest here, we all buy a diesel for one thing and one thing only, to save some money, anyone who tells you they prefer the diesel sound is talking shite!! We can all agree the wave of torque is superb, but if we were offered these two cars now, I know which I would take... 330i M Sport £34,540 Petrol 21% (21%) 2996cc Yes 39.2 (39.2) mpg 0-60 6.0 335d M Sport £38,035 Diesel (25%) 2993cc Yes (42.2) mpg 0-60 (6.1) Petrol will make a come back, as the technology is progressing, and the petrols are now getting greener and returning the same MPG for alot less money I think we will see alot of diesel die hards make a U-turn, I know I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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