AZURES3 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I think the new clubman is quit nasty and they are milking it a bit but an SUV Mini SUV What do you think ? AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Stretched mini? Not my bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ttm4son Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 An even longer MINI? I feel a sniff petrol micky take coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Doesn't look any longer than the Clubman to me. And as far as I'm concerned, the Clubman was already a Mini too far... pointless, ugly, stupid... no wonder it's flying out the door in Wilmslow then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 (cue RedRobin to pop in and say that he quite likes the Clubman actually... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I find it amusing that the double side door opening (ala RX8), is on the wrong side for the UK, on the Clubman. Take the kids to school, park on the roadside against the kerb in direction of travel, and let the kids out into oncomming traffic. Brilliant design! [ QUOTE ] The clubdoor is one of the most prominent features on the new model. It's been designed to allow passengers out of the rear seat without disturbing the driver in left-hand-drive cars. But the door is not being swapped to the other side for right-hand-drive cars [/ QUOTE ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedywheels Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Its an ugly pig and nobody appears to be buying it. BMW get it wrong again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 [ QUOTE ] (edit)...BMW get it wrong again ! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah? Many a fine stag from the Munich stables I would have said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedywheels Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] (edit)...BMW get it wrong again ! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah? Many a fine stag from the Munich stables I would have said.... [/ QUOTE ] Well the Bangle 7 Series is a challenge to the eye, the 1 Series breadvan is no beauty and the E92 M3 isn't exactly flying out of the showrooms - just some examples of where the comment 'Could do better' may have been applied. Just my opinion but as a former owner of E36 and E46 cars (including M3s), I think BMW stags ain't as pretty as they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Mind you, the 7 series, 1 series and M3 are huge intergalactic successes compared to the Phaeton, the A2 and the S6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 You leave the A2 out of this - its a Damm fine car - the 1-series isnt even close in terms of passenger comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 OK, not the A2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6tas Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Its an ugly pig and nobody appears to be buying it. BMW get it wrong again ! [/ QUOTE ] Well im going to buck the trend as i quite like it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chav Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Its an ugly pig and nobody appears to be buying it. BMW get it wrong again ! [/ QUOTE ] Well im going to buck the trend as i quite like it !! [/ QUOTE ] Can the mods delete the thread on arguments in the lounge of joy please. I feel one coming on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 A 4WD Mini ? Utterly pointless. Alex Issigonassi (or whatever) must be turning in his grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Roll on the Mini Coupe and Mini Saloon....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Roll on the Mini Coupe and Mini Saloon....... [/ QUOTE ] Then the Mini-Supercar, the Mini-SUV, and a completely new niche, the Mini-Mini..... [thinks about a making a Cadbury's Mini-roll joke, doesn't bother] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettadeluxe Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Roll on the Mini Coupe and Mini Saloon....... [/ QUOTE ] Then the Mini-Supercar, the Mini-SUV, and a completely new niche, the Mini-Mini..... [thinks about a making a Cadbury's Mini-roll joke, doesn't bother] [/ QUOTE ] Seeing as this thread is about the forthcoming Mini-SUV, I think you may have gotten those out of synch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Don't like it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 It's a test mule for the x drive system potentially being fitted to a Hot hatch version of the Cooper S. Don't be fooled by the body style, AWD is there for performance, and has been keenly worked on by several tuning companies in the US for ages. Also, in the states, the vast proportion of BMW's sold in the North East are AWD, and thats 3's, 5's and the X versions. BMW NA HQ is there too. When the MINI first came out BMW USA said that they would work on an AWD version, and that was 2004 IIRC. Their initial rational was to try to attract some of the Subaru and Evo gang. This was about the time the JCW kit was also released to dealers, before they made this factory fit. Anyway, with the latest 1.6 turbo engines developing 200+bhp, there is only so much power you can use in a FWD Mini before you bald off your tyres and burn your break pads with the tractioin control. I drove a 230bhp Cooper S back in 2005 and it was M3 fast in a straight line, but had no traction in the corners, and tourque steered despite the clever drive shaft length equalising system they developed for it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini, two members of my family own one. It handles well, does pretty good MPG and has an interesting owner (usually). If it were AWD, I would take a look at one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 AWD is pointless as a performance tool in a car that size. I can fully understand alot of BMWs being 4wd in NE USA - but that's clearly not for performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Performance in the snow (although not around corners!) I presume their thinking is that with the current trend towards more power (BMW, Audi, MD etc), that a 250bhp MINI with FWD just wont work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S3_Scot Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I agree, 2dr, 4wd and 250hp please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 That is the mule for R60 the SUV, as its based on R55 the clubman with a few styling tweaks externaly - bumpers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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