Henry52 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Is the MkIV R32 an FSI engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 ....I thought that it was only the Mk5 GTI engine which is FSI but I stand to be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Dont think you'll be corrected there RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbletop Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I often wondered this myself. Isn't the A3 3.2 Engine FSI? I'm fairly sure the mk4 and mk5 R32s arn't, but why isn't the mk5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattchaps Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 What does FSI stand for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry52 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 There are a number of reasons I ask, FSI was/is supposed to be good for economy and emissions, power and torque, you could hardly accuse the R32 of shining in any of these areas. Don't get me wrong I like my R and have no regrets buying it however my missus uses it 90% of the time so I have been thinking about LPG but if it's FSI (which I understand to be direct injection into combustion chamber) then it's a lot more expensive to convert. Hence asking the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisel Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Fuel Stratified Injection. Just a slightly different way of injecting the fuel into the cylinder that supposedly makes it more efficient AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry52 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 FSI® direct injection technology increases the torque and power of spark-ignition engines, makes them as much as 15 percent more economical and reduces exhaust emissions. In contrast to conventional intake manifold injection on conventional spark-ignition engines, FSI® engines inject fuel directly into the combustion chambers. This technology dispenses with the throttle plate. That ‘unthrottles’ the engine, reduces heat loss and thus increases output while reducing fuel consumption. The system uses two charge-air supply modes: stratified charge at partial load and homogeneous operation at full load. In the stratified charge mode, an combustible fuel-air mixture is only produced in a defined zone around the spark plug. The engine management electronics monitor engine load and adjust injection timing, pressure, quantity parameters as well as the air flow inside the cylinder via the air intake channel. At full load, FSI® increases compression as well as engine efficiency and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattchaps Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry52 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I found that info by googling FSI but it still doesn't answer my original question. I suppose if I looked at my engine and if the injectors are mounted on the inlet manifold then it's NOT FSI. Any engine guru's out there feel free to comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Neither the Mk4 nor the Mk5 R32s are FSI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry52 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 At last, cheers for that Mook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 What would we do without Mookster?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry52 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Maybe we would just leave our cars alone, but with mookster about we can fiddle and get way in over our head and then ask how to do it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medway Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Does this FSI business have something to do with the rattle sound at tickover? Or do I have an engine which is about to give up....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Neither the Mk4 nor the Mk5 R32s are FSI [/ QUOTE ] I may be wrong but according to a self study programme from VW, both the 3.2 and 3.6 are FSI engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Does this FSI business have something to do with the rattle sound at tickover? Or do I have an engine which is about to give up....? [/ QUOTE ] Have the rattle checked if it is easily replicated at the dealership. There was oil leaking all over the DSG gearbox and the front diff in my car and a faint rattling noise at idle that could be heard coming from the front of the transmission tunnel which happened 2 days after the oil leak. My car is having the entire transmission changed due to a fault that my dealer refuses to disclose due to VW "confidentiality" reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Neither the Mk4 nor the Mk5 R32s are FSI [/ QUOTE ] I may be wrong but according to a self study programme from VW, both the 3.2 and 3.6 are FSI engines. [/ QUOTE ] The R32 is definately not FSI. The only VAG 3.2 FSI I know of sits in the Longitudinal line-up of the Audi range. Perhaps this new 3.2FSi will power the MK5 Golf R32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 The Mk5 R32 doesn't have an FSI engine and there are no plans to use it in the Mk5. Can't speak for the Mk6, whenever that's going to appear. Medway, FSI is just a VW Group way of describing how fuel gets injected into the engine (they developed a more efficient way of doing it and used it in the winning petrol Le Mans Audi from a few years ago) - nothing to do with rattles on startup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Neither the Mk4 nor the Mk5 R32s are FSI [/ QUOTE ] I may be wrong but according to a self study programme from VW, both the 3.2 and 3.6 are FSI engines. [/ QUOTE ] The R32 is definately not FSI. The only VAG 3.2 FSI I know of sits in the Longitudinal line-up of the Audi range. Perhaps this new 3.2FSi will power the MK5 Golf R32? [/ QUOTE ] Oops, was meant to say MK6 R32. The 3.2FSi has 265bhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medway Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] Medway, FSI is just a VW Group way of describing how fuel gets injected into the engine (they developed a more efficient way of doing it and used it in the winning petrol Le Mans Audi from a few years ago) - nothing to do with rattles on startup [/ QUOTE ] Hi Mook, my rattle sound is at tickover and has been there since new. When raise the revs the noise goes, which is why I've been wondering if it is a characteristic of the engine. A friend of mine has a MK5 GTI and his engine is also rattly/noisy, but not quite to the extent of the R. I've taken it to VW but they said that it was normal but I'm not entirely sure he was any more clued up than I am. R32's are pretty rare in Doha meaning that I don't have access to another one to compare mine to so it looks like I've got to live with the noise - or maybe I'll just get shot just in case.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyp Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 IIRC correctly RedRobin had a ticking type noise on his Mk5 GTI, which resulted in some gearbox work, DSG too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlhj83 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 [ QUOTE ] The Mk5 R32 doesn't have an FSI engine and there are no plans to use it in the Mk5. Can't speak for the Mk6, whenever that's going to appear. Medway, FSI is just a VW Group way of describing how fuel gets injected into the engine (they developed a more efficient way of doing it and used it in the winning petrol Le Mans Audi from a few years ago) - nothing to do with rattles on startup [/ QUOTE ] Why is it that the VW self study programme states FSI for the 3.2 VR6? It was published in 2006. Perhaps, the 3.2 VR6 is a FSI capable engine, but FSI was removed for the R32, A3 3.2 etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac7 Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 That VW fact sheet refers to the US spec engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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