voxy53 Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Hi to all. I have a 3 dr GTI, DSG, leather, red, 2007 with 9000 on the clock. Really I want to check whether this is as it should be, because this is the only fault I have with the car. I love it !! When you stop at say traffic lights for a while, and put the handbrake/parking brake on, after a few seconds it starts to move forward and the engine picks up a bit. You have to put the handbrake on quite hard to stop the car moving. That is not a problem for me, but my 8 stone other half finds it a real problem as she has little strength in her left arm !! If you keep you foot on the footbrake, it does not seem to pull forward so much. Is this a normal characteristic of the DSG box ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartracer Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Yes, this is normal. When the engine is running and the car is stationary you should either keep your foot on the brake pedal, or put it into neutral or park, otherwise the clutch will not be disengaged. The handbrake does not disengage the clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhibbin Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I agree this is normal only use handbrake in N. On a side point does anyone know how this bit of DSG works? Are the clutch plates partially engaged? Is this why getting the claimed 0-60 time is difficult from rest in DSG? i.e. you need to get the computer to fully engage the clutch quickly but without wheel spin. I understand about launch control in S mode but its not really something you can use allot is it. I tried it once and it worked but the mechanical strain of the engine against the footbrake felt bad like something would give out if you repeated this regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 You should never try to hold the car with the handbrake with the DSG engaged, this will lead to overheating of the clutches and possible failure. Always use the foot brake or put the box in neutral. Launch control is activated by turning off ESP putting the box in S or manual and holding the car with the foot brake with the left foot. If you then floor the throttle the car should free rev as if in neutral to about 2500 rpm. releasing the foot brake then launches the car. The car needs to be up to operating temperature to activate the launch control mode. If you are feeling the car straining against the brake when applying the throttle then you have not activated launch control and are putting pressure on the clutches and gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voxy53 Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thanks for the reply to the creeping problem. I can rest easy and enjoy !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I just treat it as an auto when using the handbrake so slip it into N. Trying to hold it with the handbrake in D is as others have said not a logical or wise thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhibbin Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Launch control is activated by turning off ESP putting the box in S or manual and holding the car with the foot brake with the left foot. If you then floor the throttle the car should free rev as if in neutral to about 2500 rpm. releasing the foot brake then launches the car. The car needs to be up to operating temperature to activate the launch control mode. If you are feeling the car straining against the brake when applying the throttle then you have not activated launch control and are putting pressure on the clutches and gearbox. Hmmm will try again pretty sure I had it as per the above S mode with ESP off (is the sequence of these events important?) and was not free revving but straining against brake ... took off like a scorched rat mind but the feeling of mechanical strain was not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philmcavity Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 This is my 3rd Mk5 with DSG and have to agree, mine seems too fierce when movin from a standing start, my other DSG gti's wernt as fierce when in drive, release the brake on this ed30, and it really is moving!!, too fast imo, but dealer thinks its fine???. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182_blue Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 This is my 3rd Mk5 with DSG and have to agree, mine seems too fierce when movin from a standing start, my other DSG gti's wernt as fierce when in drive, release the brake on this ed30, and it really is moving!!, too fast imo, but dealer thinks its fine???. was about to ask you what had happened with yours, did they change the cat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philmcavity Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Yes they did fit a complete Cat right back to the rear silencer, must of cost an absolute fortune in costs, did the 24k6 software update and its STILL feels too vicious, will have to ask someone at inters in their ed30 with dsg to see if theres is the same before i go back to dealers and create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182_blue Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Yes they did fit a complete Cat right back to the rear silencer, must of cost an absolute fortune in costs, did the 24k6 software update and its STILL feels too vicious, will have to ask someone at inters in their ed30 with dsg to see if theres is the same before i go back to dealers and create. yeh, poss a ed30 thing ?, at least you got a new exhaust out of them, might get my exhaust looked at as im sure its to noisy at 1800 rpm, what your new exhaust like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philmcavity Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 seems very deep and base'y sounding especially on tick over and just above, will settle in with a few more miles on her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182_blue Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 seems very deep and base'y sounding especially on tick over and just above, will settle in with a few more miles on her yeh mine is ok at most of the range, but at 15-1800 rpm it goes a little noisy imo, perhaps it will settle, or perhaps thats just how they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philmcavity Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 well if your at inters, there should be lots of other ed30's there so we should be able to compare each others to then find out ifs its "the norm" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 mikemod, <........Launch control is activated by > That's useful to know, thanks. Is this in the User Manual? Mine's a MY2006. ludwig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemod Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 ludwig -> I don't think they ever gave it in the user manual, in the early days there was a rumour that if you used it more than three or four times it would invalidate your gearbox warranty, an urban myth I think. In the US MY06 or MY07 cars, not sure which ones, came with it disabled, however the dealers were then doing a flash update to re-enable it. I have only used it a couple of times and it can be a bit brutal with the front tyres and drive train, so a bit of skilful feathering of the throttle is required after launch. There is also about a 1/2 second delay when you release the brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson_R32 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Yeah, there were allot of rumours regarding DSG at the time of launch. I spoke to someone at Audi when I was in Ingolstadt in 2005 and in his words he said it wouldn't invalidate your warranty. But added; "If you Launch it from every junction, every 5 minutes, every day. Then it probably will eventually break!!" So in essence; a launch every 100 miles or so isn't a problem at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 mikeMod & nelson_32, thanks for this information. I'm not sure whether to try it or not! When I'm feeling brave, maybe I will :-) ludwig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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