Phoenix Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 (edited) Hey, For the last year or so i've been using my tomtom with the pocketgps database for speed cameras (Pocket GPS World - SatNavs | GPS | Speed Cameras) I will admit i've found it very good, every camera i've been through so far, mobile ones as well have been in the database. I don't exactly do much long distance driving though so I can't say for sure how well it performs in other areas. But I want to update a bit, something with a database I can trust 100% and can pick up all mobile camera sites. A few months ago I bought a snooper sapphire, picked up the static cameras I tested it with, but hardly any of the places I KNOW they park speed vans it didn't alert me. I know what i'm looking for will alert me many times for the mobile spots even when they aren't there at that time, but i'd rather it alerted me to a possible camera. Used to it going of all the time with the tomtom anyway! I was looking at the Road Angel Professional, or Road Angel Professional Connected, just worried i'll get it and the database i'm using on my TomTom might be better like what happened with the Snooper Sapphire. I like to have something encase I stray over the speed limit even just a little, and not notice. I need to keep my license clean. Please some advice, Edited October 13, 2008 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techieboy Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hey,But I want to update a bit, something with a database I can trust 100% and can pick up all mobile camera sites. No such thing, I'm afraid. None of the various databases are 100% and allowing yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security by one database, or another, is a recipe for disaster for your driving licence. Having said that, I reckon the PocketGPS database is probably the most comprehensive of the options out there. It's dumb and relies on your satnav to warn you of potential locations but is the most believable of the various devices I've tried. Whilst I'd guess static camera locations are probably 99% accurate on most databases, it's the "live" mobile scamera sites that are the big problem. Being alerted to "known" scamera van locations helps but you can get a bit blase about the warnings when you've been alerted to dozens of potential sites on your journey, only to find nothing there. Sods law says you'll then ignore the alert about a location that does have a live camera in operation. Theoretically, the Road Angel Connected could be the killer warning device but people on this forum have reported problems (whilst others are perfectly happy with theirs) and you're still relying on one companies database for accuracy. Until there are ten of thousands of RA Connected's in use and people actually take the time to actually report live locations it's all a bit hit and miss, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 As already said there is no such thing as a 100% correct database. And you can even go the detector route either - laser detectors tell you when it's already too late (if they tell you at all since the laser beam is tightly focussed and usually pointed at the numberplate), and radar detectors give so many false wrnings you tend to ignore them. I'm afraid there's only 2 things we can do: 1) keep within the (often ridiculous) speed limits, 2) keep pointing out that according to the Transport Research Laboratory at Crowthorne (the Government's own group of experts on roads and road safety) only 5% of accidents are caused by speed, so why the hell are they spending the vast majority of the road policing budget on that 5% and doing next to nothing about the causes of the other 95% of accidents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 If you want some decent info from someone who knows all the camera detectors inside out, talk to Tom (his Tyresmoke user name is Helfinger) at Speed Detectors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustoir Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 The 'Subscribed' Tom Tom database I didn't find too bad, and if you had it connected to your mobile phone it could update on the move if need be. It also gave you the option to report cameras as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahammackie Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hey,I was looking at the Road Angel Professional, or Road Angel Professional Connected, just worried i'll get it and the database i'm using on my TomTom might be better like what happened with the Snooper Sapphire. I like to have something encase I stray over the speed limit even just a little, and not notice. I need to keep my license clean. Please some advice, The new TomTom Live range of Connected PND's to be launched shortly (and available to pre-order at some online sites) will contain the Road Angel database and the Camera Share feature which allows users to report a 'live' camera van in a known mobile camera location. TomTom chose the Road Angel database as it was the most comprehensive and accurate in the UK, it is also the only commercially available database where camera locations are validated by our own employees. regards Graham Mackie Managing Director Road Angel Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Thanks for that Graham - nice to see vendor support again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted October 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Thank you very much for all the replies, been very helpful. The new tomtom live sat navs seem very interesting since they will have the Road Angel database. Will these tomtoms have the road angel updates reguarly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahammackie Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 See TomTom, portable GPS car navigation systems for full details of the new TomTom live products and yes, they will get regular updates of the Road Angel database - provided that you subscribe to the Premium Services. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolDave Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 TomTom chose the Road Angel database as it was the most comprehensive and accurate in the UK I think anyone reading the Road Angel Connected thread in this forum might not agree 100% with you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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