Cuprabob Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 ....So adding equivalent or similar options to the Golf R and you're looking at £32k.DSG, Xenons, Sunroof - It all adds up! I would expect Xenons to be standard as per the current R32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 .... The R32 didn't come with DSG and Sunroof - Options which I personally would not be without. That's plus at least £2k without thinking of other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 ....The R32 didn't come with DSG and Sunroof - Options which I personally would not be without. That's plus at least £2k without thinking of other options. I can live without the sunroof, but I would need leather and DSG so that would add £3kmin to the base price. Does make the S3 look like a good buy+++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 .... Well, whichever options are offered it's bound to rack up the price. It's going to be very interesting to see what VW serve up for us - Personally I find the Mk6 GTI disappointing though a 'good' car. I want something more special than just 'good' if it has a GTI or .:R badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 At £26k, £28k, or £30k, the R series Golf looks a seriously damn good buy. Haldex (hopefully), build quality and a very workable (and tunable) turbo engine makes its credentials for the hottest hatch, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 At £26k, £28k, or £30k, the R series Golf looks a seriously damn good buy. Haldex (hopefully), build quality and a very workable (and tunable) turbo engine makes its credentials for the hottest hatch, IMO. ....We live in Hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) At £26k, £28k, or £30k, the R series Golf looks a seriously damn good buy. Haldex (hopefully), build quality and a very workable (and tunable) turbo engine makes its credentials for the hottest hatch, IMO. What makes it better than a S3 in your eyes? I'm intriqued. I'm obviously a fan of the V6 so can't get excited bout this R but I just this is a S3 with slightly worse build quality and a different body. Why pay the premium when you can get a discounted S3. It;s just as tunable looks aside the Rocco R will probably be faster as it's going to be lighter with FWD but obviously with lesser traction. Edited September 10, 2009 by Cuprabob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I'm obviously a fan of the V6 so can't get excited bout this R but I just this is a S3 with slightly worse build quality and a different body. Why pay the premium when you can get a discounted S3. It;s just as tunable ....Car buying decisions are totally irrational (just like choosing girlfriends or partners) - It's not just about price or even value-for-money. Neither is it just about performance. There are so many other indefinable factors at work and what appeals to an individual as eye-candy should never be under-estimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Totally agree robin Just don't see what there is to get excited about with this one but each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 .... Just for a moment, can you imagine what this generation of Golf .:R would be like if it wasn't for the ecobabble factors? I'd want to see (and hear!!) a 5-cyl twin turbo 2.5 or the Audi V6 supercharged 3.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 What makes it better than a S3 in your eyes? I'm intriqued.I'm obviously a fan of the V6 so can't get excited bout this R but I just this is a S3 with slightly worse build quality and a different body. Why pay the premium when you can get a discounted S3. It;s just as tunable looks aside the Rocco R will probably be faster as it's going to be lighter with FWD but obviously with lesser traction. Of course, it's all subjective. The R series Golf in my mind will be a far better offering than the S3 will ever be. I too am a fan of the V6 engine, but for me personally, what you'll get for you money far outweighs the Audi offering. I also believe the build quality to be equal to the S3 (I know many will disagree). More importantly, The S3 does nothing for me. I'm not that keen on the design as it's too tame and it's not that differentiated from the rest of it's range, whereas the R series Golf will be quite radical and hardcore which is the selling feature for me. I'm also a huge fan of the GTI 4-pot turbo block. At the end of the day, I am a GTi fan and the ultimate Golf appeals more and as a result, I'd be happy to pay for the brand and car that really gets my blood pumping. However, the Rocco I can't stand, whether it's in R form or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 ....Just for a moment, can you imagine what this generation of Golf .:R would be like if it wasn't for the ecobabble factors? I'd want to see (and hear!!) a 5-cyl twin turbo 2.5 or the Audi V6 supercharged 3.0. With you there, 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Of course, it's all subjective. The R series Golf in my mind will be a far better offering than the S3 will ever be. I too am a fan of the V6 engine, but for me personally, what you'll get for you money far outweighs the Audi offering. I also believe the build quality to be equal to the S3 (I know many will disagree). More importantly, The S3 does nothing for me. I'm not that keen on the design as it's too tame and it's not that differentiated from the rest of it's range, whereas the R series Golf will be quite radical and hardcore which is the selling feature for me. I'm also a huge fan of the GTI 4-pot turbo block. At the end of the day, I am a GTi fan and the ultimate Golf appeals more and as a result, I'd be happy to pay for the brand and car that really gets my blood pumping. However, the Rocco I can't stand, whether it's in R form or not Fair points Jon, we'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I think Volkswagen are going in the right direction and these cars will sell. Im still a hardcore MK4 fan... always will be. I took the Audi S3 out for a few hours from my local dealership and it just didnt feel special for me, its a good car and agree its pretty tame/subtle. Each to their own and I agree with Red`s comments about everybody looking for different features/items/feelings in what car they want etc. But when your reaching £30k for a small (hatchback) car it really is getting to the point where its becoming too expensive vs interior room etc. £30k could equal a 2nd hand Audi RS4? Anyway thats another avenue when considering a £30k hatchback. For me if I had a spare £10-20k I would be coming straight for a HGP kit 400-500bhp 3.2 Turbo. Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 £30k could equal a 2nd hand Audi RS4? But the fuel bills would be crippling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Pictures are out...... VW Golf R Uncovered Ahead of Frankfurt Debut - Photos Very ermmm normal looking.... Riz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Its as i expected. Just wait till people find out the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 No big surprises there then Wheels look good and much easier to clean than Zolders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRobin Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 .... I like the look of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timski Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 The jury's out. You can never really tell from these arty farty press shots. You just need a no-nonsense, non-airbrushed, non-arty farty photo to get a proper look. It took me a while to notice it wasn't the Scirocco R. I reckon it's one of those cars that looks far better in the flesh - these shots probably don't do it justice. Bet it'll look good in silver and in carbon grey. I see it's got the dreaded rear tints (stands to reason I suppose if the GT and GTI have them). Exhaust configuration much better than the GTI's 'wheelbarrow look'. I like the darkened LED rear lights and those 19" rollers aren't too shabby either. Looking forward to seeing a 'proper' photo of it to consider whether I'm officially a fan. If it's the same money as an S3, at the moment I think I'd rather have the Audi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupramax Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Pictures are out...... VW Golf R Uncovered Ahead of Frankfurt Debut - Photos Very ermmm normal looking.... Riz So just like the mk4 & 5 then a golf with a different front bumper /runs for cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Happy I've got an S3 Sportback on order. Golf R would be fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Those times sound pretty slow and are akin to what a standard GTI can manage, so i'm guessing VW is sandbagging for now considering the WRX runs 0-60 in 4.7 with the same HP number, less torque and AWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I can't think of another hot hatch which offers such a fantastic looking interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiablorubino Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 0-60 in 5.5secs! Suspension 25mm lower than GTI!... Taken from Top Gear website: "The covers have just come off the new VW Golf R in Frankfurt. Don't be fooled by its understated looks, this is one monstrously fast hot hatch. It's the fastest Golf ever, in fact, powered by the same 266bhp 2.0-litre turbo engine found in the Audi S3. It'll propel the four-wheel-drive Golf to 62mph in 5.5 seconds if you spec the DSG transmission, or 0.2 seconds slower if you'd prefer a manual ’box. That's more powerful and quicker than both the front-wheel-drive Scirocco R and indeed the old Golf R32, which had a bigger, heavier 3.2-litre V6. Emissions and economy are both hugely improved on the old R32, consumption falling from 26.4mpg to 33.2mph, with CO2 emissions down to 199g/km from 225g/km. Though visual, er, enhancements over the Golf GTI remain subtle - new front and rear bumpers, LED running lights and central exhausts being the most obvious - the suspension has been lowered by 25mm while the ESP has been revised with two additional track settings. Because of the four-wheel-drive hardware, the Golf R weighs in around 80kg heavier than the GTI, though 35kg lighter than the R32. Don't expect to see many on the road: VW says it expects to sell just 500 or so Golf Rs per year, with prices starting at around £28,500." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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