Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Im now slightly out of touch with the market but the ones that spring to mind are: Clio 197 - love the price and size of it. The inside looks fairly basic in the pics howerver? Megane R26R - have a mate selling a good one. Love the idea of it but i dont think id ever bother using it on track as have something faster for that. Feckus RS - There is a blue one i have my eye on and if there was a deal to be done could be very tempted. 2 blue cars though? White and Green are far too garish, wish they made it in black. Anyone driven it? Any good? Golf Gti Mk6 - looks nice. Any good? New Seat fast thing - angain any advise? Thats about as far as i have got too. Ill of course have a look and test drive the lot, but what recomendations do you have? Its not for track, just nipping around London, going to the office and using the 4 seats. I like a bit of welly though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 [Geoff/Steelwind mode on] ooohhh, a Toyota 180 Auris......... [Geoff/Steelwind mode off] Sorry Geoff, only joking! You know us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Out of what you've mentioned it has to be the vw However, if you were being sensible and wary of the pennies, the Clio would be great. Rocco r maybe worth a mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 rocco r is silly money no? i would pay more for a car if there was one that really excited me, but just dont think there is anything out there that does that job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Ye it's cash but rs's ain't too cheap either. For a daily drive the wee Clio is a good all rounder and will be a sensible purchase. Ed30 Mkv gti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 i would expect a deal of 22-25k on the feckus. just not sure if i want to drive around with a wing like that. there are good deals on the mk 6 and i think i like it better. not ruling it out though if there was a good one at a deal. Nought 2 60 (Crowborough) Limited : VOLKSWAGON GOLF 2.0T FSI GTI DSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Rb320? We could go on forever really. Cost and size would be a good base to work from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Its hard really. Dont want to go bigger than a golf and dont want to go over 40k but it would have to be a real something for that and wouldnt want to loose my shirt. There are nice clios out there for 12k so this is quite a widespead project. Im going to have to decide on something. My heard says feckus and my head is saying the golf or 197. I do like the idea of a really light small car and not spending that much, but the inside looks a little cold and tacky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHA Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 MkV GTI for £10,500 with 55,000 miles? In white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 The inside is French, so not the best but acceptable. 135i? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Owned most of the hot hatches myself, and the most fun(even though I never owned one due to the small size) was the Clio 197 - Go and have a drive they are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac_Terrorist Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 The Clio / R26 would be a hoot I reckon but London driving....nah. Plus, bits would fall off after a couple of months. Focus RS is an interesting option but it's all a bit too much of a spotty teenager pin-up car. I believe Ford are throwing in both driver and passenger baseball caps with all purchases in May though, so it may be worth further consideration. Trying not to be biased here. I'm no die hard VW fan as this is my first VW having driven all the French stuff and some other German stuff but I do think the Golf is the best all rounder. When you leave the office tired it's a comfortable nippy hatch with a big car feel. When you fancy a blast, you've got a punchy turbo charged engine. Maybe a DSG if you're doing a lot of urban work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 The inside is French, so not the best but acceptable.135i? 135i is a nice idea but expensive and ill loose my shirt. I dont love it enough to 'have to have it'. Great review though: Jeremy Clarkson BMW 135i review | Driving - Times Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxyboy Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 135i 2nd hand should be a fair saving I'd have thought. Because your not going to get a new197 Clio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 No point really. would have to be great spec though. how much is a used 135? havent seen any for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizze Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 People are picking them up with Logic7 sound, Nav and bluetooth for around £22k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Another vote for the 135i, seriously capable car, the one Mook chased round the ring was seriously quick, I gave chase but gave up after about 100 yards when it became immediately obvious my Subaru was going to get properly embarrassed, very comfortable car too, and RWD, so your not switching between FWD and RWD when swapping cars. Personally don't like the Golf GTi, mk5 is ok, but mk6 is dull as dishwater, none of them will set your heart racing though. Focus RS will suprise you, even given some of the other cars you've owned, I think you'll be suprised at how capable the RS actually is, and how much grunt it has, FWD is the only fly in the ointment, but nothing else FWD puts it power down like an RS. If you were not driving in London, the Clio would be a great toy, however, I think for driving in London, it would be too harsh, you wouldn't get that safe feeling a well built car gives you when you shut the door and cut out the noise and hussle and bussle, and the seriously low rent interior would be hard to live with knowing you have a Porsche sat in the garage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 I think it depends what you want the hot hatch for. If its for a bit of fun and to keep the miles off the Porka then I'd be looking at the Clio. If you want something more capable of distance then I'd spend more on the 135i. I wouldnt waste my money on the VW. The Astra VXR isnt bad, the Corsa VXR is a hoot and either would be cheap enough to run (I havent had an unreliable Vx yet). New DS3 racing is getting some very good reviews - 1.6T, 190bhp and apparently a very good chassis. Also a Loeb (sp) version due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woppum Posted May 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Good reviews guys. As it stands today its the RS which is getting me most excited, a nice map to 350bhp and it would be a good car and a viable, different option to the other RS to go for a hoot. Problem is it would have to be blue, and then I'd have 2 blue cars! Well that and the big feck off silly spoiler. Ill need to have a look at the 135 but my only concern is its a little grown up and un quirky, although obviously a lovely drive. Secondly ill always be comparing it to the csl which would be unfortunate. The clio offers something else totally, and really something I have never had before. A light fast package. No one has mentioned the seat but that looks pretty good too? Get all your points about the vw and it would be a fairly un emotional choice, but still a good choice I think. Need some test drives now! P.s anyone know what tax bands they are all in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330dcoupe Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Woppum, The ****us is one seriously fast car. I chased one in my re-mapped MK5 GTi a few months back - I got absolutely hammered. I'm pretty sure it was tinkered with, as the Golf was only about 40hp down in the power stakes (on paper) - but the way it just took off was unreal. For the time I had the GTi remapped - I can honestly say, there wasn't a thing on the road which it struggled with (barring the big exotic stuff and rally bred motors of course) Have you considered a R32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelwind101 Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 IM going to throw in two "alternatives" as my other suggestion was already stolen! Have you seen the new Mazda 3 and if so, check out the 2.3 turbo MPS. There a great used buy and lots of tuneability/remaps in the Jap community. The new Mazda 3 is a great looker, it doesnt have the hooligan following of the RS and is a bit different. Also, 4 seats, what about the 4 door RX8. Since 2009 there lighter, new ratios and a few other changes. I presume petrol costs are not a problem for you! One thing with the RX8 is that its been about for a few years and Mazda have listerned to the feedback of the owners and racers and thus implemented many changes that those who drive the car want. Its a niche, but 0-62 coming in around 6.2 seconds its quick and serious with a sort of "something else" to hot hatch gang with a real focus from drivers imput. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Well that and the big feck off silly spoiler. Have you had a look at the back end of your Porka??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theduisbergkid Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Have you had a look at the back end of your Porka??? Looks like the Forth bridge has fallen onto it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlot Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 So you have binned the idea of an S3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Its hard really. Dont want to go bigger than a golf and dont want to go over 40k but it would have to be a real something for that and wouldnt want to loose my shirt. There are nice clios out there for 12k so this is quite a widespead project. Im going to have to decide on something. My heard says feckus and my head is saying the golf or 197. I do like the idea of a really light small car and not spending that much, but the inside looks a little cold and tacky? Wopps - just get a nice, mint, 2nd hand MkIV R32. Riz has one I believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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