News_Stig Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 From the News Section............ http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/tsn-motor-news/136722-mk-vii-golf-gti.html#post1617594 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 "Shave 100KG off the weight" Not before time - now that the Mk6 is a lard-arsed lump about the same weight as the Mk4 R32 was at 1,500KG, without the "benefit" of AWD How about making it 1,100-1,200KG and sort the front suspension so it handles like a Megane RS...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 It will be the usual Golf evolution process. Everyone will hate it and say it looks too much like the last one and that there's not enough power and that's it's too expensive and then the very same people will go out and buy it a few months later and tell us all how brilliant it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 They could shave off a bit more weight by not having stupid stuff like adaptive cruise, city emergency brake and lane change whatsit. What sort of self respecting performance car driver wants any of that shyte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 How many people genuinely buy a GTI because it's a "performance car". I'd argue most people buy it because it's some kind of status symbol - mum off to the school with the kids etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Noooo, these days they buy the GTD instead because they must have a more economical diseasel, even though the GTD and the stinking fuel they put in it are dearer and they only do 5,000 miles a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 They're bloody quick though, and hold their value better than the GTI. Used Mk6 GTD is next on my list when the current daily tractor has seen it's day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turrican Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 I like the look of it, they've improved the rear end compared to the mk6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 How many people genuinely buy a GTI because it's a "performance car" Me for one as a genuine GTi enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 I get there will be a few on here, but as a whole, not many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanG Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Its all good news i suppose, and I still like the iconic shape of the hatchback. But, for a grand or so more, there's that new M badged offering from those pesky Bavarians.... And that will be faster and probably drive a little bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooH Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Still got an 18 month wait for these to come out so I need to fill a gap until they've been around for a year or two, I went and sat in a new :oneseries:an hour or so ago. Wasn't the nice M one but the 'Urban', if they took all the white plastic crap off the inside it was actually a very nice car, the interior wasn't as dark and gloomy as I remembered as well, I think because they've gone for a light grey rather than dark grey/black lining on the inside now. Serious consideration is being given to a 118i or a 120d for the next car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 But, for a grand or so more, there's that new M badged offering from those pesky Bavarians....And that will be faster and probably drive a little bit better. But won't be anything like the same money as a Golf GTI I guess? And Merc are launching the new A class - AMG version will have a 2 litre turbo as well :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 It will be the usual Golf evolution process. Everyone will hate it and say it looks too much like the last one and that there's not enough power and that's it's too expensive and then the very same people will go out and buy it a few months later and tell us all how brilliant it is See now, that to me, describes your average Audi driver, not Golf drivers, the only incarnations of the Golf that have looked remotely similar (imo) were the MK1 &2, and the Mk3&4, but even then, they were still quite different! But won't be anything like the same money as a Golf GTI I guess? The new M is 30k, not far away form a GTi with a couple of options, what's the base of a GTi these days? must be 25k I'd guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinspark Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Ahhh, it's an Auto Creative Drawing mock-up. Which explains why it looks just like a Mk6 with Passat headlamps. Not that it's a bad thing, as I really like my Mk6 - but I suspect the real Mk7 will look very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 The sad news in that article is that the MK7 R will still have the 4 pot 2.0 litre engine as opposed to the 5 pot 2.5 litre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garcon magnifique Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 This was an Auto Express "we haven't got any pics or info but we'll run a story anyway" story. Frankly I wouldn't believe a word of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 Plus I see that as a positive, if it had the 5 pot, it'd just be an RS3 in a different frock, at least it won't be so lardy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinspark Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 This was an Auto Express "we haven't got any pics or info but we'll run a story anyway" story.Frankly I wouldn't believe a word of it. It's almost as lazy as their MX5/Alfa Spider article last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Plus I see that as a positive, if it had the 5 pot, it'd just be an RS3 in a different frock, at least it won't be so lardy! I agree. Also, a 4-pot turbo with 300bhp = very drivable (and tuneable). If one really needs that "burble" then Milltek will cater for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I agree. Also, a 4-pot turbo with 300bhp = very drivable (and tuneable). If one really needs that "burble" then Milltek will cater for it. I don't. I would like to see and hear the 5-pot in the Golf again. Give it something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 I agree. Also, a 4-pot turbo with 300bhp = very drivable (and tuneable). If one really needs that "burble" then Milltek will cater for it. Sorry, no matter how good the Milltek sounds on the 4 pot it sounds much better on the 5 pot. V6 would be even better but sadly those days are gone. The 5 pot would give over 350bhp standard and tunable to over 400bhp without too much money. It doesn't matter it will be a 4 pot so we'll just have to make do. When it comes time to move the Rocco on I think I will need to paying a visit to the boys from Bavaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Don't get me wrong, I appreciate and agree with you that the engine note will be a little more throaty with 5 cylinders, and that much more with 6, but if that's not the main aim, then a Milltek will improve the engine note a touch Edition 30's were being tuned to 350bhp with not-to-shy-of-that torque figures, so I reckon a tuned R would easily be in and around the 400's, again without too much money (CAI, fuel pump upgrade, remap & exhaust). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 The Golf GTi has always been a four pot, I think it'd be silly to change that format. Yeah they did a 5 pot golf, but it didn't sell well at all and was never a 'sporty' Golf, they have the 'R' badge if they want to make a sporty Golf with more than 4 cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Don't get me wrong, I appreciate and agree with you that the engine note will be a little more throaty with 5 cylinders, and that much more with 6, but if that's not the main aim, then a Milltek will improve the engine note a touch Edition 30's were being tuned to 350bhp with not-to-shy-of-that torque figures, so I reckon a tuned R would easily be in and around the 400's, again without too much money (CAI, fuel pump upgrade, remap & exhaust). Before I owned a R32, I would have agreed with you but I just find the 4 pot characterless and souldless in comparison. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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