Scotty Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 It seems weird watching this. With my car head on I'm thinking : 'kin 'ell don't they lean over a lot - especially the high speed bits coming onto the back straight With my bike head on I'm thinking : it's looks so weird having a screen and bars but the horizontal isn't at an angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewcam Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 AWESOME !! Gets me excited watching stuff like this on bikes and brings back amazing memories. Havn't had a bike for years now but that reminds me of hooning around country roads scaring the sh1te out of ordinary road users (i wouldn't be an idiot like that now). After traveling at top speeds on the likes of Fireblades and GSXR's I could always remember that slowing down to 80 or 90 seemed very safe and felt more like 30 or 40. Very deceptive and very dangerous ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Totally agree. "Speed hardening" as I've heard it called means you're more comfortable and familiar with things at those speeds and better able to cope .... but it can fool you into forgetting about the massive physical forces and momentum there is. I've slowed to 100mph and few times and coz the bike is so at ease at that speed you think it's nothing. This video always reminds me of that. Watch on the deceleration part how slow 100mph looks. It's almost tempting to get off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewcam Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 That front wheel didn't come down till 140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 We need to consult out resident nurburgring expert, Mooknus Mooknerson to see if that 7:50 BTG counts, I say it doesn't due to the fact he used the whole straight to build up speed prior to passing the bridge and starting the timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Everyone has a flying start on a BTG run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 This video always reminds me of that. Watch on the deceleration part how slow 100mph looks. It's almost tempting to get off! Feck that thing goes like the speedo is in kph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Everyone has a flying start on a BTG run. No, they don't. You might get a bit of a run up once you've negotiated the cone chicane, or the temporary barriers, but you don't get the whole straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 If we're getting to semantics at what speed are you suggesting is the boundary between a flying lap and a non-flying lap? There may be some but all the runs where people post up 'record times' seem to be from a open straight. I don't know how much difference it would make to a lap time either way as by the next crest you're likely to have equalised anyway with either lifting off a lot or a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I enjoyed that Scotty, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 What's the top speed of the bike, 180mph? So having had the whole of the straight i'd say he's probably going to be doing about 100mph more through the bridge than he would have done otherwise, and that is going to make a significant difference to the lap time. The vast majority of manufacturer lap times you see for the Nurburgring are not BTG, they all use the full circuit including the straight, the BTG times are more if an amateur thing simply because you cannot complete a full flying lap of the ring unless on a dedicated track day, and even then they sometimes leave a chicane along the straight to slow people down. So to use the BTG time, in a flying lap is somewhat fudging the figures IMO, I've no doubt at all it's a quick bike, that's not the issue, my issue is how they've timed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 What's the top speed of the bike, 180mph?So having had the whole of the straight i'd say he's probably going to be doing about 100mph more through the bridge than he would have done otherwise, and that is going to make a significant difference to the lap time. The only time take any speed advantage would be relevant is for about 1km. After that you have crests/bends etc and regardless of if you go under the bridge at 5mph or 150 you can still only get around them at a set speed. Therefore the difference isn't carried over the whole lap. The fact the bike gets up to speed so quick would also limit it. As a real world comparison - when I did VMAX in my S4 taking a 80mph flying start on to the straight made 1 mph difference to starting from a standstill at the beginning of the straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) There is a whole world of difference between a fat Audi and a Sports bike though, yes of course the speed isn't carried through the whole of the lap, but it's quite a long section before you'd need to slow down after the bridge. We are only talking a few seconds of difference over the whole lap btw, I'm not trying to say it would have lost a minute or anything, but I'm still of the opinion the time is wrong in the context that they are portraying it, what they should be claiming is a full lap in xx.xx EDIT: Actually I think I'm mistaken, the 7:50 time appears to be gantry to gantry upon reviewing the video while trying to chop the start and end bits off the time, which makes it more impressive than BTG anyway! Edited January 31, 2013 by Tipex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 There is a whole world of difference between a fat Audi and a Sports bike Yep - I notice on a daily basis the speed isn't carried through the whole of the lap, but it's quite a long section before you'd need to slow down after the bridge. Count the seconds he carries full throttle from the bridge until he has to lose speed. Anyway it's a slow 7'50 compared with the 6'11 record! ! ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 The video also only claims an "about" 7:50. Either way, it's an impressive ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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