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Thankfully everything in life isn't as reliable as a VW...


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So, my Golf is now 3.5 years and around 40k miles old. (The first 'owner' had it for 2 years and only did 12k miles in it!)

In the time I've had it, it has had a full engine rebuild, taking 2 weeks and costing several thousand pounds - now the DSG 'mechatronic' unit has given up (juddering clutch, harsh changes) - so that's another £2-3k, I suspect!

'If only everything in life was as reliable as my Alfa Romeo'...

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So you care for your own car and rag-the-feck out of your company car :grin:

I care for it better than the first owner did - he was filmed on YouTube trying to kill a cyclist!

Actually, that doesn't look as bad as claimed - and I'm a bit hacked off it hasn't been removed, as I requested, as that happened a long time before I got the car.

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In my experience, VW group stuff generally isn't as reliable as pretty much anything else, and I think my opinion is fairly well qualified given how many cars we own and have in the fleet.

I've been saying it for years, but it seems everyone else is only just catching up with me. :grin:

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Most reliable car you can currently buy, without question, and by some margin, is the Toyota Prius, they just don't go wrong, but the Avensis is a whole different story.

Otherwise Honda stand out above most.

We've not got any of the new crop of Korean stuff yet, but I'd wager it'll be pretty good, if not the most economical.

The major brands are really going to have to pull their fingers out if they are going to match them in coming years.

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It's a shame Toyota aren't competing in the fleet market right now - they were very aggressive when they launched the MkII - making them cheaper to lease than a Focus etc.

Trouble with a lot of the Japanese and Korean brands is that they don't match the emissions of the Euro brands - which also rules them out as company car choices (we target under 100g/km for manuals and under 110g/km for autos).

I'd happily have a Kia or Hyundai rather than a Ford or Renault, too.

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Yep, that's the only real issue with the Korean stuff, they don't currently match euro economy or emissions.

But you can bet they will within a few years, and 5 years down the line, they'll probably be better.

With regards to Toyota, they did what most manufacturers do, offer great fleet deals, get a load of cars out there, then back off as the cars sell themselves, I know it's not 'cool' to like the Prius, and I'm not a fan of how they look, or the CVT gearbox, and I quite frankly don't care about being green, but they are really very hard to argue against for anyone after a small to medium sized family car.

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