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Hmmm, I seem to have a lot of questions lately .......

Quite a few of my friends have had the same email, all from [email protected] Nothing malicious just odd, especially as each person isn't connected to each other although the common factor is they do breed the same dog breed.

Anyone able to find out any info? One suggestion is a journalist .....

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If it's not a malicious email then I doubt they'd have spoofed or hidden the IP address, I guess that you all frequent a common 'doggy' mailing list or forum which will be where your email addresses have been harvested from.
 
As Mac says you need to view the header info, this is relatively easy:

  • Highlight the message in the Windows Live Mail, Windows Mail or Outlook Express message list.
  • Click on the message with the right mouse button.
  • Select View Message Source or Properties from the context menu.
  • Switch to the Details tab.

Once you have header, just past it here: http://mxtoolbox.com/public/tools/emailheaders.aspx and look for the Sender IP 
 
Copy the IP address and then search for it  on: www.whatismyip.com/ip-address-lookup/ 
 
With the results you should be able to localise where the mail was sent from and hopefully narrow down the sender.

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I've asked one of the ladies I know well if she will send me a copy of email as suggested by Mac ..... we are on a FB closed group but it doesn't contain emails, some of the breeders don't even know each other or have a website for their kennel so it seems someone has spent time finding them or are simply bored and fancied bombarding as many people as possible with this email - I havn't had one either lol.  Jan said her email came via her website, which I guess is easy enough to do - I'll post up when I get a copy, have a feeling someone is going to end up with egg on their face when they get foundout  :secret:

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this is it: 

 

Apparently could be a reporter from The Telegraph?  !!!

 

 

 

Begin forwarded message:

 

From: [email protected]

Date: 26 January 2014 14:27:10 GMT

To: [email protected]

Subject: Contact from aprika.co.uk

Reply-To: [email protected]

 

name: Leah Milner

email: [email protected]

message: Dear Breeder,

 

Myself and my partner are about to buy our own home and will want to complete our transition into the next phase of our lives with our first family dog.  We have our hearts set on a Boston Terrier because of their energy and spunk but are well aware of the possible challenges that come with the breed.   We have both always had dogs growing up (Staffies, springers, border collies mainly) but living together in rental accommodation for the last 6 years has meant we haven’t been able to have a furry companion.  I’m writing to several reputable breeders, so that when the time is right we can ensure we have the perfect new addition.  I have read your website, which answered some of my questions but I would really appreciate it if you could answer the following for me.  

 

1.    How long have you breed Boston’s?    

2.    How long have you been involved with the breed?

3.    Why do you love this breed?

4.    Why do you breed dogs?

5.    How long have you been KC registered, are you an assured breeder etc?

6.    Do you show/compete with your dogs?

7.    How often do you breed?

8.    The puppies come with insurance, which company is this with? Is it the same insurance you have for your dog and how long is it for? 

9.    What is the average litter size, and how many live?

10.    What is the lifespan and what health issues occur in this breed? Have you produced any of these? If so, how many?

11.    Do you belong to any clubs and are you active in the breed club?

12.    What goals does the breeder have with the breeding program and how does the breeder go about to achieve this?

13.    What does the breeder feel are the strengths and weaknesses in the breed and the breeder's program?

14.    May I see the puppies full pedigree?

15.    Would I be able to see the complete generation health certificate?

16.    I understand that you sell companion dogs only but under what circumstances would you be willing to lift?

17.    Do you pick the puppy or do I?

18.    What visits has the puppies had with the veterinarian?

19.    Do you have recent buyers who would be willing to recommend you/discuss their experience?

20.    Do you stay in touch with your puppies? If not then why not?

21.    I understand you are willing to support buyers for life but does this include health concerns and can I return the puppy if there are any major health problems?

22.    Can you send me a copy of your puppy contract?

23.    Are the puppies weaned, if so what do they eat and do you include a diet sheet

24.    Have the puppies had vaccinations, and do they leave with a record of this/worming records?

25.    You mentioned your puppies are raised in a family enivrionment but what sort of socialisation or experiences has my puppy had so far? i.e. car journeys, vet trips, bathsm grooming, toilet training, other dogs, children, how often are they handled?

26.    When do your puppies leave for their new homes?

27.    Where have the puppies been raised? i.e. rural home, city location?

28.    How many litters have your bitches had?

29.    Do you own the Sire, if not will his owners be willing to discuss him/for us to meet him?

30.    Have the parents been tested for genetic/hereditary problems and are the results/certificates available?

31.    What is the set up for visiting and buying a puppy from you? i.e. can I see the puppies with their Mum?

32.    How long is your waiting list?

33.    To what extent are your dogs and their offspring effected by their Brachycephalic nature.

34.    Have any of your dogs or their offspring had surgery to rectify any hereditary conditions

35.    General health of ancestors – i.e. have any suffered from any of the issues below;

 

•    Eye Disease:  Hereditary cataract

•    Dystocia (difficulty giving birth)

•    Hemevertebrae (deformities of bones of the spine)

•    Hydrocephalus (water on the brain)

•    Atopy (hypersensitivity to pollen and other protein particles, causes intense itching and skin trauma)

•    Generalised demodicosis (mange)

•    Cushings syndrome (over production of corticosteroids, causes lethargy, thirst, increased appetite)

•    Cleft palate

•    Patellar luxation (dislocated kneecap)

•    Cancer: Brain tumor; chemoreceptor tumors, mast cell tumors

•    Congenital deafness

•    Keratoconjunctivitis sicca (dry eye)

•    Cherry eye

•    Secondary glaucoma (related to cataract)

•    Corneal dystrophy

•    Uveal cysts

•    Tail docking

•    Dental issues

 

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this is it:

Apparently could be a reporter from The Telegraph? !!!

Begin forwarded message:

From: [email protected]

Date: 26 January 2014 14:27:10 GMT

To: [email protected]

Subject: Contact from aprika.co.uk

Reply-To: [email protected]

name: Leah Milner

email: [email protected]

message: Dear Breeder,

Myself and my partner are about to buy our own home and will want to complete our transition into the next phase of our lives with our first family dog. We have our hearts set on a Boston Terrier because of their energy and spunk but are well aware of the possible challenges that come with the breed. We have both always had dogs growing up (Staffies, springers, border collies mainly) but living together in rental accommodation for the last 6 years has meant we haven’t been able to have a furry companion. I’m writing to several reputable breeders, so that when the time is right we can ensure we have the perfect new addition. I have read your website, which answered some of my questions but I would really appreciate it if you could answer the following for me.

1. How long have you breed Boston’s?

2. How long have you been involved with the breed?

3. Why do you love this breed?

4. Why do you breed dogs?

5. How long have you been KC registered, are you an assured breeder etc?

6. Do you show/compete with your dogs?

7. How often do you breed?

8. The puppies come with insurance, which company is this with? Is it the same insurance you have for your dog and how long is it for?

9. What is the average litter size, and how many live?

10. What is the lifespan and what health issues occur in this breed? Have you produced any of these? If so, how many?

11. Do you belong to any clubs and are you active in the breed club?

12. What goals does the breeder have with the breeding program and how does the breeder go about to achieve this?

13. What does the breeder feel are the strengths and weaknesses in the breed and the breeder's program?

14. May I see the puppies full pedigree?

15. Would I be able to see the complete generation health certificate?

16. I understand that you sell companion dogs only but under what circumstances would you be willing to lift?

17. Do you pick the puppy or do I?

18. What visits has the puppies had with the veterinarian?

19. Do you have recent buyers who would be willing to recommend you/discuss their experience?

20. Do you stay in touch with your puppies? If not then why not?

21. I understand you are willing to support buyers for life but does this include health concerns and can I return the puppy if there are any major health problems?

22. Can you send me a copy of your puppy contract?

23. Are the puppies weaned, if so what do they eat and do you include a diet sheet

24. Have the puppies had vaccinations, and do they leave with a record of this/worming records?

25. You mentioned your puppies are raised in a family enivrionment but what sort of socialisation or experiences has my puppy had so far? i.e. car journeys, vet trips, bathsm grooming, toilet training, other dogs, children, how often are they handled?

26. When do your puppies leave for their new homes?

27. Where have the puppies been raised? i.e. rural home, city location?

28. How many litters have your bitches had?

29. Do you own the Sire, if not will his owners be willing to discuss him/for us to meet him?

30. Have the parents been tested for genetic/hereditary problems and are the results/certificates available?

31. What is the set up for visiting and buying a puppy from you? i.e. can I see the puppies with their Mum?

32. How long is your waiting list?

33. To what extent are your dogs and their offspring effected by their Brachycephalic nature.

34. Have any of your dogs or their offspring had surgery to rectify any hereditary conditions

35. General health of ancestors – i.e. have any suffered from any of the issues below;

• Eye Disease: Hereditary cataract

• Dystocia (difficulty giving birth)

• Hemevertebrae (deformities of bones of the spine)

• Hydrocephalus (water on the brain)

• Atopy (hypersensitivity to pollen and other protein particles, causes intense itching and skin trauma)

• Generalised demodicosis (mange)

• Cushings syndrome (over production of corticosteroids, causes lethargy, thirst, increased appetite)

• Cleft palate

• Patellar luxation (dislocated kneecap)

• Cancer: Brain tumor; chemoreceptor tumors, mast cell tumors

• Congenital deafness

• Keratoconjunctivitis sicca (dry eye)

• Cherry eye

• Secondary glaucoma (related to cataract)

• Corneal dystrophy

• Uveal cysts

• Tail docking

• Dental issues

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If I was the breeder I'd tell them to fück off!

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I'll try and see if someone else that received it just as an email can send me a copy, Jan said hers came through via her website and that is it complete.  Those that have replied so far and just said "sorry no puppies at present".   I know of about 20 people so far all having received the same .... thanks tho'

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Good afternoon, 

 

I have been made aware of this thread by one of the breeders that I have emailed and I have to say I'm a little shocked!  

 

I'm not sure why following the advice of the KC website and some of the Boston Terrier club websites and asking lots of questions of a breeder has caused such mass hysteria.  I do admit I have emailed several breeders all found on the Champdogs website mainly because I didn't want to miss out on a fantastic puppy because that breeder was listed near the bottom of the list,  I have researched the breeders listed as best I could but if my questions weren't answered on their website etc or they did not have a website then I have sent them an email.  I didn't mean for this to come across as an interrogation or seem impersonal I just decided that It would be the best way to compare lots of breeders without being swayed by someone's personality or even worse by puppies!  

 

I am not a journalist (but I wish I was based on the reaction from some breeders!) I am just a someone who is about to pay upwards of £1000 for a dog.  I will be making a 11 - 14 year commitment to him/her and I want it to be the best and healthiest puppy available and therefore wanted to get a feel for the person behind the breeding.

 

I'm genuinely sorry if I have caused any of you offence or distress with my email, that definitely was not my intention.  I tried to tailor my vast list of questions to each breeder and thankfully I think I have found at least a handful who were willing to indulge me, answering my questions openly and honestly.  

 

Hopefully I will find my new perfect new addition in the near future, best wishes to you all...

 

Leah Milner

(Not the Scotland based journalist!) 

 

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Hiya, welcome to the forum +++

 

We're not shocked, I'd say it's more a case of being intrigued  :unsure:  It now sounds like you're a genuine customer, but the sheer detail of the first out-of-the-blue email, the number of people it went to in such a short time, and the fact you share a name with a journalist probably just set off a few alarms in peoples' heads.  

 

Panic over, then, back to work everyone :coffee:

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