AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Before paying the deposit on the BMW I asked to see the V5 and it's registered to The Scot Group, from what I can see that is no different to Leaseplan or Lloyds leasing etc so maybe a deal breaker, not happy Salesman told me it was a BMW management car ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) What does the reg start with? YC / YD are for Thorne were BMW cars tend to get registered. Edited June 2, 2014 by Andy_Bangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 What does the reg start with? YC / YD are for Thorne were BMW cars tend to get registered. It's YD63 Salesman says I didn't say it was a BMW manage ten car I said it was a BMW car, he said he thinks The Scot group do advertising for BMW and are entitled to purchase cars through BMW direct. When I google The Scot group it seems to suggest car leasing company in Exeter, called them and they don't do BMWs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Email reply from salesman below:- There is nothing we are trying to hide here. The cars are purchased on a staff contract hire scheme. This means that the cars are owned by the company, in this case the Scott Group, and the rentals are taken direct from salaries. It’s a bit like our demo cars here. Anybody within the Sytner Group can use them, but I pay a certain amount per month in car tax and fuel etc, to have the use of a company car. If a car had a private name on the V5, then there is still no guarantee on who or what or how the car had been driven. In fairness a private owner could have done the 9000 miles in the car and raced it around for all of those miles. At the end of the day this is a fully “Approved Used BMW”, that we purchased direct from BMW UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinspark Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Don't know why you consider it to be a problem. In a large number of cases (probably most, actually) - a company car is someone's pride and joy and they'll look after it like it was their own personal car. In fact, I look after mine better than my personal cars, because it's newer and worth more! I'd probably be worried if it was Avis or Herts etc., on there... but not a traditional lease company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasdrury Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Don't know why you consider it to be a problem. In a large number of cases (probably most, actually) - a company car is someone's pride and joy and they'll look after it like it was their own personal car. In fact, I look after mine better than my personal cars, because it's newer and worth more! I'd probably be worried if it was Avis or Herts etc., on there... but not a traditional lease company. I wouldn't be worried, BMW are giving you a warranty. However, is TS's point, I think that is not correct to say 'in most cases' - yes in some but unfortunately people have the opinion that it's not theirs so who cares. I know the company I work for and several others now include penaltys for poorly kept Co cars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 The problem is the Scott group is http://www.thrifty.co.uk These guys rent our short and long term prestige cars and the V5 says The Scott Group, when googled its clear it's Thrifty car rental/leasing so the same as Avis or a Hertz surely and would put off the next buyer too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasdrury Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 But if you called them and they don't lease / rent BMWs then surely what he is saying is correct that it was a BMW company car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 No, azure called Scot who don't rent BMWs, Scot own Thrifty who do/did rent/lease BMWs, however over the last year or so have migrated to Audi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 But if you called them and they don't lease / rent BMWs then surely what he is saying is correct that it was a BMW company car? I got the wrong Scott group but when you Google The Scott Group they are the owners of Thrifty car rentals and long term lease and have all models of BMW in their prestige section http://www.thrifty.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Ummm... Edited June 2, 2014 by patently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Sounds like you need a letter from the previous owner confirming what it was used for. If it was a company car, then all is well regardless of who it was leased to, provided the car is cosmetically good on an inspection and has an intact service history. If it was a rental car then I'd be cautious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Its in such mint condition its hard to believe its been used by multiple people, there is not a scrtahc, parking dent or mark on the outside or in the interior. Its almost too clean for a 9 month old car so maybe it was given a hard time and chips away have worked their magic. So fooking pissed off now not sure what to do, intend to keep this 5 years so dont want a dog motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Just buy it. It's like a woman, if it looks good, everything feels tight and new and it does what you need it to then who cares where it's been before Edited June 2, 2014 by eldavo69 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hmm. I've already replied to you PM, Azure, but then seen this. If it is immaculate, then I'd take comfort in the warranty and it wouldn't bother me. You could, as mentioned above, simply ask BMW to give you a letter saying it had not been a rental car on the Thrifty or other car hire fleet. If they're happy to give you that, bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Just buy it. It's like a woman, if it looks good, everything feels tight and new and it does what you need it to then who cares where it's been before That's almost like the pm I sent him earlier lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldavo69 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 That's almost like the pm I sent him earlier lol But without the bit about sh1tting in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_C Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Just buy it. It's like a woman, if it looks good, everything feels tight and new and it does what you need it to then who cares where it's been before Edited June 2, 2014 by Ian_C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZURES3 Posted June 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 PMSL your be asking me to do the sniff test next ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 As above, buy it on it's condition and don't worry about who owned it before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinspark Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 The problem is the Scott group is http://www.thrifty.co.uk These guys rent our short and long term prestige cars and the V5 says The Scott Group, when googled its clear it's Thrifty car rental/leasing so the same as Avis or a Hertz surely and would put off the next buyer too? OK, that's not good. I wouldn't. Not without a very substantial discount and / or enhanced service and warranty package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Bangle Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) OK, that's not good. I wouldn't. Not without a very substantial discount and / or enhanced service and warranty package. He's getting an excellent car, with the remainder of the manufacturers warranty and a large discount on the new price. Edit: and a 5 year service package - do keep up! How do you know that your re-shelled beetle hasn't been a rental in the past? Edited June 2, 2014 by Andy_Bangle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 How do you know that your re-shelled beetle has been a rental in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinspark Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 He's getting an excellent car, with the remainder of the manufacturers warranty and a large discount. How do you know that your re-shelled beetle has been a rental in the past? You don't. But it's 12 years old, and relatively cheap. I wouldn't knowingly buy a daily rental car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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