Muffinman81 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I have a mitsubishi fto, thinking of getting a Golf. Would like your guys & gals opinion on which model, 1.8T, v6 4motion or R32? Any opinions will be much appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Personally I'd rule out the V6 4Motion, it's neither one thing nor the other, none of the performance benefit of an R32, and none of the economy benefit of a GTi, it's a bit of a pointless car really. Is your FTO a V6? Will you miss the noise? If so get the R32, you'll be used to the under steer coming from the Mitsubishi, if not, get a GTi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 What's your budget? Personally, I'd be going for the V6 or R32 everytime over any of the 4 cylinder models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipex Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 V6 wouldn't get a look in, why would you bother if an R32 is an option? Other than engine note, the V6 offers nothing, no performance, no handling, it under steers like a barge given the non sports suspension, it's heavy and a GTi is faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 A lot of it for me is about the sound. The 4 cylinder GTi doesn't inspire me, whereas the V6 engined models do. The 170 bhp V5 would also be in the running. However, it all depends upon the OPs budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 From your post, I guess you're looking at a Mk4 Golf. V6 4Motion - lardy, slow, soft thirsty, boring to drive and very nose heavy. Not much on the market to modify it - it's always been an old man's car 1.8T - OK, if it's remapped up to 180bhp, but not that quick. Few handling mods around, but the best thing you can do is uprate the anti-roll bars R32 - great car, as long as it has history. Nose heavy, but not as much as the V6 4Motion, because of the uprated suspension. Spend £2k on suspension mods and it's very quick in the twisty bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffinman81 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Thanks for the advice guys, i read that the 4motion was a possible sleeper car if tuned. i do like the idea of the R32, i guess i'll have to hang on to the fto a bit longer until i can get an R32. if i get any of the other two, im always going to be thinking about the R32 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 The V6 4Motion is a massively un-tuneable car. It's naturally aspirated and is a mildly modified version of the 2.8 VR6 engine in the Mk3 VR6. The R32 is a larger version of the same engine, but can be more easily tuned, because you can get after-market cams and decent after-market exhaust systems for it, like Milltek. You can supercharge or turbo-charge the VR6 (whether 2.8 in the V6 4Motion or R32) but it's not cheap - a LOT more than the car is actually worth. Have you considered a Mk4 GT TDI? The 130bhp version is quick and you can modify it as well. bit left field and yes I'm biased because I have a modified GTD, but having owned all the cars in your list except the V6 4Motion (I broke the main dealer's demonstrator and was put off buying one), then I'd really consider a Mk4 GT TDI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Welcome to Tyresmoke. As an ex-FTO owner I can say that the 4motion Golf will be a complete and utter let down after the FTO, it wont handle as well, it wont sound as nice so I'd save yourself the disappointment and steer clear unless you are going to bin the engine and put a 1.8T in with the 4motion running gear. The R32 is a totally different. I guess the 4motion is more of a cruiser. The TDI variants as Mook said can be quite rapid. There is also the MK4 anniversary which came with 150bhp TDI or 180bhp 1.8T. The 1.8T in this guise should map to around 210bhp ish and the car is fairly rare now I guess so should hold reasonable money. The Anniversary comes with body styling and was Red, Black or Silver only and each was numbered internally. I will say here that the same age Beetle handles better than the Golf so if you can put up with the look then they can be good fun but less practical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuprabob Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Forget the Golf and find a nice MK1 Leon Cupra R... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Or 8L S3 as another option. Dont see many nice ones fofr sale though, see a lot of tatty ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffinman81 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 i was looking at Audi s3's, but read that the golf was a better drive. im open to any car i guess, i like the idea of all wheel drive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Edition 30 GTi in budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewNiceMrMe Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 i was looking at Audi s3's, but read that the golf was a better drive. im open to any car i guess, i like the idea of all wheel drive though. Why? What is the appeal of AWD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 A sorted FWD hatch will be as much fun as the AWD hatch imo. The V6 engined cars did suffer in handling with the big heavy lump up front, both Golf and TT. The 4 motion type arrangements in the smaller vag group cars isnt as clever as it could be and is heavy. Depending upon Budget, there is the TT QS which was a 2 seat coupe TT, rear seats removed, recaro pole positions and 245bhp output. Nice interior space and they seem to be holding mney quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser647 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 And does Muffinman81 realise the AWD Golfs are AWD* 'on demand'? * can't remember if that applies to the R32? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Yes it does. 4motion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 And does Muffinman81 realise the AWD Golfs are AWD* 'on demand'? * can't remember if that applies to the R32? Any system using the VW 4Motion Haldex-based system (V6 4Mo, R32), or Audi Quattro Haldex-based system (S3, RS3 etc.) has AWD on demand, but the switching controller is miles ahead of where it used to be. You can easily modify it with an uprated controller - one of the first mods I ended up doing on the R32, so the switching is pretty much instant - yes, you notice it most on track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Yes it does. 4motion That's the stupid catch with the name - the Passat 4Motion uses the Torsen based AWD system. Bloody marketers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy2shots Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 A bit like an Audi A3 quattro not actually being a quattro but Haldex. Branding gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mook Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 A bit like an Audi A3 quattro not actually being a quattro but Haldex. Branding gone mad. Quattro is a brand name, not a type of tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patently Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Quattro is a brand name, not a type of tech Audi have put a lot of effort into persuading Courts that a word meaning "4" is not at all descriptive of four-wheeled things or four-wheel-drive things but is in fact a highly distinctive brand name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffinman81 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 i didnt know that no, thanks for info. i just like the idea of awd, the power you can tune to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao_khan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Cant argue with FWD power: https://youtu.be/d80ajewat-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffinman81 Posted May 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 True, i have no bloody idea now lol. i just want a car that puts a smile on my face & when i park & walk away i always have to look back at it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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