Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Well I have finally got my Belkin all in one ADSL/Router/Wireless set up and its working a treat..... eventually What should have been a 10 minute job turned into nearly 4 hours - lots of scratching of head and calls to Wanadoo highlighted the fact that I had been entering the wrong password for my connection and had frozen out my account Tested the Firewall on "Shields UP" and Symantec's online "Security Check" and all came back fully stealth etc... The only setting I have so far had to add to the builtin firewall is for IUCII. It has some preset applications that it thinks I may need, except the trigger port it used by default was 2019. This didn't seem to work, so after looking at my ICUII settings I realised it needed to be 2000 and heypresto it works When I ran "Shields UP" again all was fine, but running the Symantec check it said I was vulnerable to Trojan Horse attack Which one do I believe. As soon as I come out from ICUII that risk does not show..... so it would seem according to them I am at risk when using ICUII?? Any comments greatly appreciated PS it has an idle time setting which drops the ADSL connection after a set period, but after it does that it doesn't seem to autoconnect, so I have now set it to zero so it stays connected??? PPS The wireless part is diabled at the moment until I get XP loaded on my new laptop (Birthday pressie to myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I havent a clue what software ICUII is short for but then again, ive not needed to mess about with my ports and access anyway. as for redialing, if you let it time out, you need to tick the check box "dial on demand" its under internet WAN -> connection settings-> next -> and its on page 2 hust above the idle time box. even tho i have my idle set at 0 i still have got this box checked, incase it drops off. Saves going into configuration to start it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 [ QUOTE ] I havent a clue what software ICUII is short for but then again, ive not needed to mess about with my ports and access anyway. [/ QUOTE ] ICUII is a video chat software package I guess I will have to see how things go about opening the port I am going to try the idle disconnect at 5 mins again, just to see if it works now I have done some tweaking Internet does seem that little bit more responsive now I am not using the USB modem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 HC There is also a new firmware out before you get too settled. I saved my old set up, applied it, and it wiped everything. my saved configuration , didnt reinstall as it said it was "too short" so ive had to start from scratch with the settings. still, whilst you can remember what your doing, it might pay to update it. (if yours hasnt got it already from factory) Linky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Thanks for that Paul, but I have just been on the phone to Belkin Technical and it looks like I have a faulty unit. I have been having troubles getting my laptop to connect, and it seems that the WLAN light should be lit all the time regardless as to a connection being present, but mine isnt lit and therefore the laptop cant see it Is yours like that? We did a factory reset and held the reset in at the back for 2 mins and still no joy. Any comments greatly appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I struggled with this... infact ive fecked mine up trying to ugrade my laptop to XP SP2 so im fiddling with mine as we speak.. Right wireless... IIRC i had to turn mine on. to get the 4th Green light ON. and like Belkin say, it should be on all the time, regardless of if its working.. (it blinks when communicating IIRC) to turn it on.. log into set up page. and click WIRELESS heading in blue. Its got a simple enable/disable option on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellfray Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 After all this talk of wireless, my Draytek Vigor 2600 seems to have given up the ghost, nearly! Wireless works fine for about an hour, then just "stops". I have two wireless machines and they just can't see the router any more. If I do a software reset of the router (from a wired PC) then wireless starts working again, for about an hour. It only stops after an hour of use though... if there is no activity for a day or so it's fine, until I switch the laptop on and start using it. I've upgraded to the latest firmware, and even tried the new beta release, but no difference. Anybody got any ideas - or should I just bin it and buy something else. If so - can anyone recommend a good combined ADSL router, with 54M wireless, decent aerials (twin external atleast), and atleast 1 wired ethernet socket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Right wireless... IIRC i had to turn mine on. to get the 4th Green light ON. and like Belkin say, it should be on all the time, regardless of if its working.. (it blinks when communicating IIRC) to turn it on.. log into set up page. and click WIRELESS heading in blue. Its got a simple enable/disable option on it. [/ QUOTE ] I have done that I have noticed that when you enable it and apply the settings the lights appears briefly and then goes out . Would seem that mine is a duffer Other than that its great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 i had similar problems and found it was down to certain batch of microsoft updates messing mine up. Turned them off on Laptop and all was perfect. Now im fiddling again and trying SP2 and its doing all sorts of weird things. excellent signal, but wont let me connect to the net at all i will not give up....................... yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Just updated the firmware from your link Paul and it went in fine Still no wireless When I disable and then enable wireless, the light appears for a second and then goes out Have you sorted out your problems yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 yes, i seem to up and running again, i just tried updating too much at the the same time. my wiresless has a rock steady light at the mo, and its not in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb Posted August 30, 2004 Report Share Posted August 30, 2004 [ QUOTE ] After all this talk of wireless, my Draytek Vigor 2600 seems to have given up the ghost, nearly! [/ QUOTE ] If it's just the wireless which isn't working, and you're happy, otherwise, with the Vigor, why not just buy a separate wireless access point. I have the Vigor 2600X (no wireless), and use a separate 3Com 802.11g WAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 [ QUOTE ] yes, i seem to up and running again, i just tried updating too much at the the same time. my wiresless has a rock steady light at the mo, and its not in use. [/ QUOTE ] Out of interest who is your ISP? I am with Freeserve/Wanadoo and with all the fiddling around I have done, it seems to work whether I use PPPOE or PPPOA. Just wondered which one it should be? Also do you use LLC or the other one MMC I think I am hoping to pick up my new unit later today PS is there any problem with having it connected to the ADSL line all the time, only auto re-connect never seems to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russellfray Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 [ QUOTE ] why not just buy a separate wireless access point [/ QUOTE ] Excellent idea... thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURTON Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 How quick is it?! using ADSL? Is it like being at the machine its directly plugged into?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 how quick is it? well 802.11b (11Mb) is 22 times faster than 512Kb broadband... so even when you have a crap signal far away from the router through ceilings and walls etc, it is always still more than enough for 0.5 - 2mb broadband and beyond. later spec 802.11g is even faster at 54Mb. so broadband over wireless is never going to be an issue. I have a 802.11g (54Mb) capable router, but choose to use the built in laptops 802.11b (11Mb) wireless so i do not need a lump sticking out the side of my laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Sorry HC , only just seen this..... <font color="blue"> Out of interest who is your ISP? </font> Pipex www.pipex.net <font color="blue"> I am with Freeserve/Wanadoo and with all the fiddling around I have done, it seems to work whether I use PPPOE or PPPOA. Just wondered which one it should be? </font> Mine is PPPOA <font color="blue"> Also do you use LLC or the other one MMC I think </font> Its LLC or VC MUX ..... mine is VC MUX I got these settings off my ISP's website, under advance user setup, for aftermarket kit like routers etc... im sure wanadoo do do do similar or offer settings via technical support line.. <font color="blue"> I am hoping to pick up my new unit later today </font> good luck. They are a good bit of kit, and can be left alone once working. <font color="blue"> PS is there any problem with having it connected to the ADSL line all the time, only auto re-connect never seems to work </font> None at all.They are designed to be always on. Mine is on 24/7 although PC's are turned off when not in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 The only problem I have found with my laptop is I take it from my house to my g/f's house. Both locations use Netgear Routers/Gateways. I have problems with obtaining IP address when swapping between locations, this is usually fixed by a router reboot or laptop reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 [ QUOTE ] Sorry HC , only just seen this..... <font color="blue"> Out of interest who is your ISP? </font> Pipex www.pipex.net <font color="blue"> I am with Freeserve/Wanadoo and with all the fiddling around I have done, it seems to work whether I use PPPOE or PPPOA. Just wondered which one it should be? </font> Mine is PPPOA <font color="blue"> Also do you use LLC or the other one MMC I think </font> Its LLC or VC MUX ..... mine is VC MUX I got these settings off my ISP's website, under advance user setup, for aftermarket kit like routers etc... im sure wanadoo do do do similar or offer settings via technical support line.. <font color="blue"> I am hoping to pick up my new unit later today </font> good luck. They are a good bit of kit, and can be left alone once working. <font color="blue"> PS is there any problem with having it connected to the ADSL line all the time, only auto re-connect never seems to work </font> None at all.They are designed to be always on. Mine is on 24/7 although PC's are turned off when not in use. [/ QUOTE ] Many thanks Paul. I have just check Wanadoo and found this: Advanced settings These setting are only required if you use a computer running a non-Windows operating system, or you are setting up a Router to share your Internet connection. IP address Your IP address is allocated dynamically via DHCP- you do not need to set this. We are unable to offer a static IP address. DNS Domain name service is dynamic - but if domain name server (DNS) addresses are required, you should use 195.92.195.94 and 195.92.195.95 Router settings If you choose to use an Ethernet modem / router, the correct connection settings are: Encapsulation: PPP over ATM Multiplexing Method: VC-Based Virtual Circuit: VPI=0 VCI=38 I am sure I looked before and couldn't find it, so hopefully now I have the correct stttings. I am pretty sure that is what I was using before, but at least this time I know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Paul All working with excellent range even at the bottom of the garden The only thing I am a bit confused about is that in the intel profile it gives the MAC address of the access point a different number to what I think it should be. I am connected to my network, but am just a bit puzzled. Also I was surprised that my network showed up when I did a scan of the networks mine was visable,but maybe because the laptop was on the MAC address list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURTON Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 so do you need a ADSL Router and then Wireless gadgetry!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 each item you allow to connect will have its own MAC address. i have two addresses... Desktop PC Laptop PC and thats it. If you have turned off your ESSID as belkin call it, it stops Shouting "belkin54g" or whatever you have called it.... so only if you have the right Mac Address, and already know the ESSID name should you get in. THEN you need the right encription WEP, WPA whatever you have set... there are programs out there that will show youe ESSID. Even if hidden. But if hidden Your neighbour cant easily see it ..... It certainly should not pop up "HC's Wireless Network Here " message when they fire their laptop up, unless they get another (often free) bit of software to sniff it out. Then they still would have to crack it, if you have secured it right. Thats how i understand it.... you can see it, because you have set it up to allow you to see it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 [ QUOTE ] so do you need a ADSL Router and then Wireless gadgetry!? [/ QUOTE ] HC and i have a Belkin ADSL modem, Router and Wireless box all in one then either built in wireless in laptop or a card like my one in the marketplace.. an all in one box like mine and a wireless card can be had for sub £100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURTON Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Hmmmmm Very interested in doing this!! Space savin is goin to be very good!! Just got to get a laptop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hants_Cruiser_UK Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Thanks for answering my questions Paul [ QUOTE ] each item you allow to connect will have its own MAC address. i have two addresses... Desktop PC Laptop PC and thats it. [/ QUOTE ] I have the same and just have the desktop PC and the Laptop in the MAC address list of allowed computer to be able to connect:) I thought that MAC addresses never changed and were kind of like hardware fingerprints? I feel a bit happier about the SSID now. I have changed that from Belkin 54g to my own. At the moment I am using 128 WEP, but I believe WPA is more secure. What are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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